Originally Posted by media

This was one of my biggest concerns, Surfers are NOT as stupid as they used to be.. They are educated by people on how to commit what basicly amounts to consumer fraud by being allowed to join, and charge back or request refunds months later.. You had a membership, this creates expenses, fees, and penalties with chargeback... but hey, we're the black sheep, it's ALWAYS the adult industries fault... I heard Steve Lightspeed say one time "Our industry is the only one that constantly fucks itself" which is pretty true.. lol