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Originally Posted by Lazonby
If there are such things as peaceful Muslims then there are paedophiles who do not find children attractive, gay people who are not gay and cats which are dogs.
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A simple "Yes CD, you are correct in assuming that" would have sufficed.
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Originally Posted by Lazonby
Things are what they are, not what people say they are.
A Muslim is defined as one because of his beliefs. The aim of Islam is to dominate the entire world and to enslave, convert or kill all the non-Muslims. If someone who calls themself a Muslim does not believe that Islam should dominate the world and that all non-Muslims should be converted, enslaved or killed, then they are not a Muslim, even if they say they are one.
So, the 'peaceful Muslims' are not in fact Muslims and should not be refered to as such. It might be more accurate to call them 'people with some form of Islamic background', although that's a bit of a mouthful. Perhaps the best would be 'Muslim apostate', since that's what they are; people who have left Islam.
I know perfectly what you mean, since I have some buddies who call themselves Muslims, but who are anything but.
Westerners lump everyone with some form of Islamic identity into the group called 'Muslims', but that's because not many Westerners know more than a basic amount about Islam, including yourself if I guessed correctly.
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Well, no need to get snippy.

If you mean that you assume I don't whole-heartedly agree with you, then yes, you'd be correct.
Relax McGuffy, I share your view, for the most part, where
extremist muslims are concerned. Those who run out of their house or hovel raging in mindless uncontrollable anger at any perceived sleight from the west (or Denmark, or wherever). Yes, there are plent of them. Just not all.
There are people right here in Winnipeg who immigrated from the middle east who are practicing muslims who would no more burn a car or torch their neighbour's house than you or I would. (assuming their are no muslims living next door to you, lol). Fact is there are thousands upon thousands of muslims living in Canada, none of whom have in recent memory sucicide-bombed anyone, or run rampant through our streets shooting people and tipping over cars etc.
But before you start squawking about how I don't understand your view, as I said already, I share it.... where it pertains to the extremists. I fully support taking a hard line against those who are upstart enough to think they have a right to threaten the security of the world.
Those who think we should just "leave everyone alone and mind our own business" are deluded morons in my view. Not keeping tabs on some of these countries like Iran is about the least intelligent thing the west could do in this day and age.