Sleepy,
Thanks for the tips...they are appreciated. I especially am gonna folow through on getting a book on marketing.
I agree that it's not the designer's job to make the site convert, but I get the full range of clients. I get people that have everything down as they want it, and i get people that don't have a clue. I think it is safe to say that the folks that put the most thought and work in before approaching designers are going to be the most successful with their sites.
I, however, think that as a designer that it is to my advantage to learn what I can to make a design convert. There has to be a reason that Mike Ws the king, and the rest of us are still learning.
DG
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