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Originally Posted by EpicJim
This thread is getting better and better with all the different theories.....
How about we offer more free content...host it for free for all the affiliates...do all of your daily submits....give lifetime cookies so you users can join up again years later....tell them how to cancel as soon as they join for the $1.00 trial...give affiliates $10 for every cross sell....(maybe cookie those too) maybe do it with NO cross sells...NO EXIT CONSOLES...
maybe HAND deliver payouts....oh yeah..almost forgot PAY $40 per join for exclusive content...maybe $45 just so we can lose $$ on MORE joins per day........i just love to lose $$ it is why i am in biz.....
You fucking guys crack me up.....i have been in this game for 11 years and you can't even see the forest because of the trees.....
Paycom is definitely going through a transition....but if you are concerned about the overall health of the industry no need to look any farther than the mirror....
I would love to see a program that has a whopping $15 per join payout survive in this day and age....not happening..... 
conversions have been steadily declining for years.....the whole PPS model was an education in free porn......an educated surfer can get his porn for $1.00 per week.....not $40 per month...when they join every friday and cancel before even SEEING the member area.....but you would just LOVE it to have that cookied $30 per join every time he does that...yes?
does not make for a very long healthy business now does it.....
wait..lets count SECOND page uniques....wait...JOIN page uniques...wait...QUALIFIED join page uniques....LOL
here is an idea...maybe affiliates who constantly bitch about every little thing can START YOUR OWN FUCKING PAYSITE....then see how much a join is worth to you....
Sorry for the sunday rant..and this has been said many times in the past...but no one ever seems to listen......
This paycom thing is eventually going to bite a lot of programs in the ass maybe this will be the final nail to actually get programs to wake the fuck up....they ARE having more issues than normal...everyone can see that...but is it really PAYCOM that is the problem? |
ya know... Why is it that every time something like this comes up, programs blame the affiliates for all the stuff they offer... You offer it because you want more affiliates... Stop offering it if it's such a drain on your bottom line... I thought that a healthy program didn't actually need affiliates in the first place...
more free content - well of course.. doesn't do any of us any good if we buy cheap crap content to try and sell your high end site.. or make the surfer think the content we're showing them is in the site when it's not.. just creates more cancels for you. So it makes good business sense for you to provide that if you can. But why not get smarter about it.. offer only a portion of the full set... only offer some content to every affiliate and more to the ones that prove they can generate sales.. or team up with the content producers to sell portions of that content specifically for gallery building at a reduced rate...
host it for free for all the affiliates - I've never wanted that and I've never used it.. so stop offering it and make those guys sending 1 sale a week go back to McDs.
give lifetime cookies so you users can join up again years later... - never asked for that.. with a PPS model, if I get paid once I'm more than happy.
Tell them how to cancel as soon as they join for the $1.00 trial... - pretty shitty thing to do, not sure why anyone would do that.
give affiliates $10 for every cross sell....(maybe cookie those too) - Why? affiliates don't expect that in a PPS model.
NO EXIT CONSOLES... - you already have reduced payouts on those. I would assume you based that off of any lost money from not having them. If programs had limited their consoles to 1 or 2, I think the "request" for no consoles wouldn't have ever become an issue. But that all happened in the ealier money grab phase and we're all paying for it now... I mix up no-console with console.. and if a program has a "surfer friendly" mode where only 1 console pops, I often use that as well. I try and work with my sponsors so we all make money.
maybe HAND deliver payouts... - that's just nuts.. but again.. you all started offering epassporte etc. so you could attract more affiliates.. you could just keep cutting cheques and make em wait.. I still just get cheques and sometimes wire transfers.
almost forgot PAY $40 per join for exclusive content... - if you can afford to great... but if sites like bbo, nd and topbucks can pay 30/35, why can't you?
conversions have been steadily declining for years.. - of course they have.. because we all keep offering them more and more free stuff to try and entice them to buy.. we're all shooting ourselves in the foot...
an educated surfer can get his porn for $1.00 per week.....not $40 per month...when they join every friday and cancel before even SEEING the member area..... - huh? if they're not getting to the members area then how are they seeing anything?
but you would just LOVE it to have that cookied $30 per join every time he does that...yes? - no.. that would just be insane.
here is an idea...maybe affiliates who constantly bitch about every little thing can START YOUR OWN FUCKING PAYSITE....then see how much a join is worth to you.... - I've noticed that quite a few have... some of us don't want the hassle of affiliates and members etc.. LOL
Nice rant though.. bet that felt good to let out... ;)