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Old 04-09-2006, 12:31 PM  
diesel
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Originally Posted by EpicJim
This thread is getting better and better with all the different theories.....

How about we offer more free content...host it for free for all the affiliates...do all of your daily submits....give lifetime cookies so you users can join up again years later....tell them how to cancel as soon as they join for the $1.00 trial...give affiliates $10 for every cross sell....(maybe cookie those too) maybe do it with NO cross sells...NO EXIT CONSOLES...
maybe HAND deliver payouts....oh yeah..almost forgot PAY $40 per join for exclusive content...maybe $45 just so we can lose $$ on MORE joins per day........i just love to lose $$ it is why i am in biz.....

You fucking guys crack me up.....i have been in this game for 11 years and you can't even see the forest because of the trees.....

Paycom is definitely going through a transition....but if you are concerned about the overall health of the industry no need to look any farther than the mirror....

I would love to see a program that has a whopping $15 per join payout survive in this day and age....not happening.....

conversions have been steadily declining for years.....the whole PPS model was an education in free porn......an educated surfer can get his porn for $1.00 per week.....not $40 per month...when they join every friday and cancel before even SEEING the member area.....but you would just LOVE it to have that cookied $30 per join every time he does that...yes?
does not make for a very long healthy business now does it.....

wait..lets count SECOND page uniques....wait...JOIN page uniques...wait...QUALIFIED join page uniques....LOL

here is an idea...maybe affiliates who constantly bitch about every little thing can START YOUR OWN FUCKING PAYSITE....then see how much a join is worth to you....

Sorry for the sunday rant..and this has been said many times in the past...but no one ever seems to listen......

This paycom thing is eventually going to bite a lot of programs in the ass maybe this will be the final nail to actually get programs to wake the fuck up....they ARE having more issues than normal...everyone can see that...but is it really PAYCOM that is the problem?
My mirror shows me the clean and cristal business history. We have a business model based on the quality. We never shaved and always bring more value of the content then we charge for. We invest a lot of money and create quality product using latest technologies. We pay 50% recurring and manage to run business steadly with creating new project every month. We never had a problem to pay for any service we used and all our models and employers get money on time. And we never had any prechecked cross sale.
There are many programs with same business model as we follow and from some reason they do all make quality work and provide great product.Lot of programs running with CCbill do manage to run honest business and yet very very profitable and valued for clients leaving them happy and rebilling for long periods and not because they have forgot to cancel.

Now tell me something, why every time we talk about companies who pay 30-40 usd per signup using prechecked cross sales, we end up with shitty content, spam, shave, thousands of tours leading to one lossy member area and often not even able to pay for the service they order from other companies? And now also with 1:5000+ ratios selling trials.

Can you tell me,using your 11 years experience, why?
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