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Originally Posted by CDSmith
It's difficult sometimes to type out everything one means and wants to say. Were we to have this conversation in person there would be a lot less confusion I'm sure.
Yes, you cater to the end user of course, but your target audience isn't exactly the same as mine. I have surfers who love amateur material shot by boyfriends and husbands using digital cameras and bad lighting and techniques. I have extreme fetish surfers who simply aren't interested in girls who have the kind of beauty that you like to shoot Paul. I was merely trying to point out the slight difference and also the similarity between the two business models.
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The difference in the porn content makes no difference in the fact that above all the essence of the porn has to be right. Shooting amateur with a girl who looks bored will not work as well as shooting it with a girl who looks like she wants to be fucked by th photographer/boyfriend. A lot think amateur is just bad photography. It's not and never has bee only about that.
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Originally Posted by CDSmith
Don't sell yourself short. I'm sure that if you were to ever delve into other niches you would soon clue in to what those surfers really want as well. This touches on the essential point of this thread.... it's about having the ability as a webmaster to listen to the surfer, and being able to find what they are most interested in. That means viewing content shots as content... and not "would I hit it" :D
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And how much would I lose while learning what turns on a guy looking for something I have no interest in?
I feel some think there is an easy route to selling porn, get the right niche, right number on images/videos, right words and then just send traffic to it. BULLSHIT.
Unless the porn is right you will be sending traffic to a leaking bucket. The most important thing today is to look at the niche and ask yourself, do I know what turns on a guy looking for this niche and does this site deliver it?
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That's just it... those looking for specific stuff aren't interested in "average stuff".... but trust me, some of these extreme niches, when properly marketed, can see some pretty amazing ratios. Granted, traffic levels are usually small, but so what? 1:40 to 1:80.. are not unheard of. Some do even better than that.
Yes. But get the porn right according to who? That's my point Paul... most guys think only about their own personal tastes. I'm suggesting they start thinking in a broader sense, and consider what their target audience is interested in.... and I call this the webmasters perspective.
Finding your target and focusing on hitting it 100% isn't a bad thing, and you are living proof of that. If my being "spread out" helps your cause, I can certainly say the reverse is true. :D
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Yes the conversion numbers on niche will always out perform those on mainstream. BUT what are the number of hits per hour worked like?
The more niche you go the less people are looking for it, the less you are going to get your free sites accepted and the harder you make it to convert those hitting the site.
I've been around this business for decades and with a few exceptions the mainstream makes the most money for all doing it right. I'm asked if I would shoot this niche or that niche and when I give them the price for exclusive they cringe, when I tell them the set will not sell more than 5 times non exclusive they tell me the huge demand there is for it. This business is one governed by supply and demand. If the demand is there the supply will follow.
BUT I WILL ALWAYS AGREE WITH YOU, NEVER BUY IT BECAUSE YOU WOULD HIT IT, BUY IT BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD HIT YOU. In a nice way.
