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Old 03-28-2006, 08:23 AM  
BlackCrayon
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Originally Posted by Anthony
I find it very interesting that in this thread alone, I count 4 people I used to trade traffic with back in the days when CJ's were the traffic kings, and made ALOT of money circa 1999/2000.

That was the way to teach the surfer to pay for his/her porn. But no, the bleeding hearts in this business said it was wrong doing that, and we should give them free porn, and "sell" them what they want.

Where are those idiots now? Seems the CJ'ers are still around.

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who were these bleeding hearts? i think those kinds of sites died out for a few reasons. surfers will only fall for it for so long. unless you can find 100k of "never seen it before" surfers every day things will plummet pretty quick. Cj's didn't last more than a couple years. i used to trade traffic with a bunch of them, though my site wasn't a CJ. for me the traffic was terrible and eventually they would send less and less and then were gone. the whole traffic script concept of 'sending back only what you send them' didn't really work from what i saw. there were sites that gave away plenty before CJ's came around and after they died out. i don't think free porn is what killed CJ's. i agree that people are giving away way too much but i don't agree that jerking around surfers is the solution.

beyond that i've always worried about the 'corporization' of the industry. the smaller webmaster affiliate either being pushed out unless they invest and start their own paysite network. i guess its an eventually in all industries but the question is how much longer.

the number of people brand new to the net will continue to shrink and so you have to give something people haven't seen before, causing limits to be pushed and pushed and desensitizing people to it all unless you basically shock them.

porn will always sell but there are ways the industry can be helped if we'd all agree to some standards. tgps and linklists and such are great but they keep demanding more and more. how much will we have to give away to keep them happy 5 years from now?

and one major thorn in the side of all online marketers as i see it is adware/spyware. sure there is big money if you're the one profiting off it but there are so many fucked up computers out there now that people are afraid to use because they might auto dial some place in africa or pop up porn every 3 clicks or whatever other tricks people have.

bad billing practices are another thing. people say sponsors have to do this to offer the payouts they do but its a shorterm solution that causes a longterm problem.

as for what its 'worth' to me. i personally don't think any future career i'll have will be harmed by the fact i made porn sites. its not like my name is published all over the place nor am i involved in the production of it. im happy to be able to work from home and the umlimted income potential.
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