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Originally posted by charly
This thread has wondered away from the original complaint. That is the girl was underage and the IDs Model Release faked. Both these documenuits have been taken down, both looked highly suspect. 2257 is a smoke screen to get away from the CP complaint.
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Smoke screen? I didn't see anyone trying hide behind 2257, I believe Dave's point was that he's not required to provide, (nor keep for that matter,) any 2257 information, if you actually read the law, he's not even required to verify the information is correct, which means that he's going an extra step by actually requiring his publishers to show him SOMETHING. I believe he said something about re-checking the paper work... That doesn't mean he's any less sure, that means he's tring to prove your whiny-ass wrong.
As for wanting to see the paperwork, as a customer I can understand that, maybe he SHOULD consider providing that paperwork, but it's not like he owns anything he sells! He has, what, like 200 publishers, I know the list is damn big! Can you imagine trying to get all those people to give him the paperwork.
Let's not forget that as the webmaster, having the paperwork won't help you AT ALL. The only reason to get paperwork period is to make sure that it looks legit to cover your ass. Even if you have the ORIGINAL paperwork on file, I guarantee you, you will be in a jail cell for a long time (long enough for the court hearing) unless you have a.) A good atourney B.) Bail money C.) all of the above. And god help you if you're ignorant enough to put yourself down as the COR.
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Originally posted by charly
This follows Dave Clarks post that he was 200% satisfied with the documentation and his decision is good enough and he does not show documents to everyone who ask to see them. He does not have the time.
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Hrmmm, I didn't see anything about him not having the time, all I read was about him not doing it as a standard business practice. Dave, as anyone who's purchased from him that is reasonable, will do anything for a customer that is within reason.
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Originally posted by charly
I've been in this industry many years, more than some of yoou have lived, and the easiest stick to beat us with is the CP stick. We have all to be on guard against it and fight it at every opportunity.
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Now that's an excellent point! Maybe you should have made that your first point rather than attacking other peoples business practices.
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Originally posted by charly
The facts are these, Dave Clark decides if documents are real and accurate not his clients, his judgement is poor as he now has asked the photographer to produce new ones.
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Those aren't facts. His judgement being poor is an opinion, moron. He has asked for new docs to tell you where to stick it, since you keep saying they are fake. To me it looks like a case of someone wanting to remove info, but not wanting to just put a black line in it's place... Some of us are anal about things like that, I know I would have done the same thing.
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Originally posted by charly
The passport looked clearly faked, the model release signature in no way matched the one on the passport, nor did it match the writing above. Dave if you want to dispute this put those documents back up or do I need to get them out my cache?
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I agree with you on looking clearly faked, but then again, so did the one you provided. As for signature, my signature changes nearly everytime I sign something.
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Originally posted by charly
The police in this case are not going to bother with 2257 they are going to knock on a door with a CP warrant. Anyone running that risk needs to make their own decisions, not have them made for them by someone who now questipns his decisions by asking for new IDs. Will you put your freedom into the hands of a Russian shooter and a guy who will not show you IDs?
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I'll say it again, he never said he questions his judgement, he wants proof... You do know what proof is, don't you?
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Originally posted by charly
Bret_c who the hell are you, your first post and why have you not emailed me to come off my list? Email me and you can come off right now. Would you be asking or giving free content for this kind of support?
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Ahhh, now to the real part of my post... Who am I?t I am Bret C, I thought my name made that obvious!
Why is this my first post? I check this board and a few others once in awhile to see if there's anything I should know about, most things I don't feel pertinant enough to actually post to, so I had no need to create an account or post before this. I've bought stuff from Dave since 1992, (ran a BBS,) I live in the same city as he does, and when he had an actual store, I visited him on many occasions. Attacking a person of such great character just makes you look like a fool, not to mention that you keep changing your attack against him... Everytime one gets extingusihed, you find something else.
Why haven't I removed? I checked my Outlook to see how to remove myself from your mailings that I get, but then realized that I have a rule setup to move you to a box that is deleted on closing. I haven't bothered comming to your site to remove myself because it would take too much time, just like actually reading and posting to this topic has already done for many people.
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Originally posted by charly
Thinner and thinner
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I was almost wondering if this was part of your signature line... The only thing getting thinner and thinner around here is your reputation.
I know why Dave has been on here posting left and right, but why are you? Don't you have something better to do like drum up new sales? Oh wait... That's what you ARE doing by posting here...
