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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell
I believe all illegals should be removed and we should put real borders up between Mexico and the US.
Perhaps since manufacturing has gone the way of being outsourced to Southeast Asia many of the unemployed poor in our inner cities who already have some of the lowest quality of life would naturally end up finding work in agricultural positions in other parts of the country... in areas where people are otherwise leaving, where quality of life is higher.
The US is very resilient. I won't believe any argument that removal of this workforce would end any industry that doesn't already deserve an adjustment or natural death. I don't like my tax dollars subsidizing bad business. One way or another I am still paying. If I wasn't paying for all of the social services help and healthcare for illegals perhaps I wouldn't mind paying another 50% for strawberries in the store.
It's just a fucking joke. Maybe we'll end up turning this into a conversation here about farm subsidies, too, that would be interesting to discuss further how the richest country in the world pays farmers to not grow crops and continue inefficient business practices... whereas in any other industry with any other business the owner would just go out of business and someone else would figure out how to make lemonade out of lemons.
There's just too much to discuss on this subject for any of us to get all of our thoughts out. There are tens of millions living below the poverty line and what it all boils down to is that you people who want the illegals are placing a priority on people that aren't even citizens of the United States.
Brad
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Well put and good points.
Farm subsidies have gotten out of hand for sure.
They were started during the great depression to keep families from losing their farms. These days the "family farm" has all but disappeared, you have giant agribusinesses running all the farms in this country and the subsidies amount to us cutting 8 figure checks to one company for growing this or that.
I actually agreed with Bush on this topic because he wanted to limit the amount of the subsidy being paid to any one business, so that the subsidy money would actually go to family farmers instead of the giant agribusinesses, but the republicans in congress wouldn't play ball.
On the other hand, food is cheaper and more plentiful now than at any time in the history of the world. I haven't done enough research to know whether this is a result of gov't subsidies or because we're importing alot of food from South and Central America now. It could be a combination of both.