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XXXManager · 09-23-2002, 04:35 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack
Originally posted by XXXManager
1. The belief in god is longer, more supported by the masses, more understood by people and - proven atleast as good as things like the big-bang.

Yes, a belief in "god" is more understood by people and that's THE reason why its a popular view. Understanding science and its methods takes effort, a belief in "god" requires none. And no, its not proven "at least as good as things like the big bang". It has been established that all celestial bodies are moving away from a central point in the universe.

"established"? lol. for a creature who never left earth you seem to be quite sure of that. Tell me? if there is a center of the universe - there is an end to it (otherwise there would be no center) [don't argue about that because its the common hypothesis today]. AND as the universe expands slower than the speed of light [No need to object that - this is also the common scientific hypothesis]. SO... what happens when you cross that end with a very fast spaceship? ha? - You may be looking for a scientific answer - but remember - thats the same science that has no cure for common flew.

2. Even "science" is disproved by science MANY times

That's because scientific hypothesis are testable and science itself is self-correcting.

I dont care why is that. Im just saying - relying on something that disapproves itself to disapprove something else is like sticking to a version of your story even if your evidence seem to become irellevalt. Remember - I'm not saying god therefore must exists - I'm saying your method of disproving it is too fragile

3. Modern cience is based on axioms and "believes". Saying science "proves" things is ilogical.

Science "believes" nothing. Everything in science is tentative. Even gravity is not "proven" it just hasn't been falsified.
[/B]WHAT??? Science "believes" nothing??? Tell me... You know gravity, right? Why is there gravity? Something to do with the mass of big objects right? Have you got a proof for that? An absolute explanation?? (Don't bother to admit that you don't).. So you say if not disproved and falsified - it means its valid and true?? Fine. Then by the same logic you proved god exists!

4. If god exists, that sceince is his creation, including the disproving of god itself.

This makes no sense.

So does everything with god. Basically the logic in it says - if god exists and what is said about him being allmighty is true, then trusting a little puny thing called science that is the same creation of that great god (like junkfood) prooves nothing because it may very well be a false method for proving things, created by god

5. I wouldn't trust scientist with nothing. Look what happend to Apollo 13, Dolly's predacecors, Hiroshima/Nagasaki and Colgete/Palmolive products...

Apollo 13? Huh? The US government ordered the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagaskai, not scientists.

Apollo 13 was an attempt of man to land on the mood. See the movie and see that scientists can't even manage that little thing, so how do you expect them to disprove god?
A-Bomb as many other "good" inventions is the creation of scientists. I don't care who ordered it. Some things in science are bad. And as sting says "Never saw a miracle of science, that didn't turn from bless into a curse"

6. Atleast god does'nt do tests on bunnies and monkeys for the sole purpose of manufacturing shampoo.

It's corporations that pay for this research. Even scientists need to earn a living. If you want to blame someone, why not blame whoever is reponsible for paying for this shit in the first place.

Maybe someone payed them to disprove god

To summarize it all - you seem to have too much confidence in science while even scientists has less I suspect. Science lacks answers of some key answers humans have and although its responsible for alot of the advancement we had over the years it is based on assumptions that are not proven and therefore should be regarded as heresay only!

(Keep in mind, that its not science that did all that - its scientists)

Think about it