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Originally Posted by Forkbeard
I'm not trying to restart the GUBA wars, but this common viewpoint is in fact just plain wrong. There's a *huge* universe of material on GUBA that's unique and converts precisely because there's nobody currently selling it. Virtually all of my GUBA marketing surrounds pictures I found that aren't available anywhere else on the net, for any price. And that's precisely why my surfers whip out their credit cards.
My biggest GUBA sales comes from vintage erotic photography -- those old "French" postcards and black-and-white wallet photos dating from about 1890 through 1965 or so. The earliest stuff is genuinely free of copyright. More recent stuff must belong to somebody, but the rightsholder was often somebody like a mail-order pornographer operating under an assumed name out of the back of a magazine. He died in 1972 and he kept his business a secret from his family, so his heirs never knew about the rights they inherited. That stuff is *dead* to the market, it's *impossible* to license and publish. But obsessive collectors and afficionados swap it on UseNet, and folks will pay for GUBA to help them find it.
GUBA's huge, and so perhaps there do exist folks who are abusing it precisely as Smokey alleges. But it's just flat wrong to say that's the soul of GUBA's business model. I sell GUBA because GUBA exposes for non-technical users a huge universe of orphan content, stuff that's lost to the market, stuff that nobody's currently selling and nobody currently can sell.
Whomever is right about the legalities (and my opinion on them is well known), it's important to understand that GUBA is a lot bigger than the universe of recently-produced content by folks active in today's pornography market.
(The rules I established during the last round of GUBA wars remain in effect -- if you want to argue or discuss with me, keep it civil and polite. If your post is the usual GFY golconda of insult, abuse, and ad hominem, I'll most likely ignore it.)
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always interested in logical discussion..
But its not so easy to pull the wool over the eyes of everyone here who knows exactly what usenet exists for.
YOU may market guba for vintage porn , but you know very well thats not where guba makes its money
Lets cuts the shit , guba exists to get stolen material.. you can paint the picture however you want but thats reality..
Reality also says copyright holders aren't required to submit to thousands of sites database to protect their rights..
You may think its "flat wrong" to assume most of guba affiliates are marketting copyright material , but a quick check of the "facts" tells us otherwise. ( i.e. go log on and see )
Anyone with half a brain can see how guba works and how worthless the service would be if it werent for the fact affiliates can promote individual stolen content.
If guba wanted to clear that up they can simply stop allowing affiliates to link directly to custom queries and instead setup predefined landing pages for specefic niches like "vintage porn"
text filters arent going to work thats why the only solution until they have their own team of people removing copyright material is to not allow affiliates to link directly to search queries.. nor should they be displaying "examples" of "custom" queries, they should be only displaying examples of pre-defined queries..
Its way to easy for me to download paris hilton video rename it to smokeys-custom-query-string.mpg
then upload it to guba and point my surfers to a custom search query to include the video..
Guba must make some effort on their own to curb the download of copyright material.. asking content providers to manually verify and ask for removal of individual items is ludicrous.
The amount of content on guba doesnt matter nor does the amount of non-copyright material on guba matter. WE ARENT FUCKING MORONS , we know whats on the usenet