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Zilla · 09-19-2002, 09:29 AM

Hey, Boneprone, thanks for the kind words, bro :-) Yeah, I drop in here once in a while and throw out some of my idiotic thoughts if a thread really grabs me.

Regarding this thread...well, obviously I am going to disagree with it because I own a TGP and from my experience I see paysites making a ton of money from Thumbzilla traffic, and I see plenty of webmasters over the years making money from Thumbzilla traffic. And, I can tell you straight out that I have never had a complaint from any of my sponsors. Never. As a matter of fact, sponsors are usually happy if I decide to promote their programs on Thumbzilla. So, naturally, when I saw RogerV's post, I was taken aback.

I honestly did sign up for Porn Kings just over a week ago and was planning to start promoting their new program, I think it is called freefreeprogram.com, on Thumbzilla sometime this week. It looked to me like it could do quite well on Thumbzilla, and so I was going to really push it and see how it did. And, I can honestly say that there are many webmasters, newbies and experienced, who, when they see Thumbzilla pushing a program, try it out for themselves, too. This is something of which my sponsors are quite aware...they know that if a big TGP pushes their program, it is going to cause a lot of other webmasters to try pushing that program on their sites, too.

Thumbzilla and other TGPs provide a service to webmasters and to surfers. We post about 200 galleries per day that were submitted to us by webmasters. On each of those galleries, those webmasters are promoting a sponsor or his or her own paysite. I think that most of the sponsors out there are quite aware that a large percentage of the signups that they get to their paysites came either directly or indirectly from TGP traffic.

Nevertheless, it is clear that there are some sponsors out there that actually do consider TGPs to be the enemy! I guess that RogerV is one of them. So, I am really glad I saw this thread before I started pushing his program on Thumbzilla. If there is one thing that is very important to me in both personal and business relationships, it is loyalty. I have sponsors on Thumbzilla that have been there since the day I started the site! I am very loyal to them and they are very loyal to me. Some of them are very big and well-known. They appreciate the value of a Thumbzilla! They are quite aware that not only has Thumbzilla made them quite a lot of money, but also many webmasters, newbies and experienced alike, have signed up for their programs simply because they have seen Thumbzilla using those programs for so long and they figure, well, if it works for Thumbzilla, maybe it will work for me, too. These sponsors have made Thumbzilla a lot of money, but Thumbzilla has made them a lot of money, too! So...I am loyal to them, and they are loyal to me.

From what I have read in this thread, I have come to realize that it would be stupid of me to promote RogerV's program on Thumbzilla because 1) he does not know the value of a TGP, 2) he resents my site, and 3) he could never have a sense of loyalty to me and therefore would never appreciate the money that Thumbzilla would make for him.

That is a shame! But, all is not lost: as I indicated before, there are many big sponsors out there who, unlike RogerV, have the vision to see the value of TGPs.

Obviously, I am biased, but in my opinion many of the TGPs are the backbone of the adult internet! They keep the traffic flowing and glowing ;-) Certainly there are TGPs out there that deal in pretty low quality traffic, but there are many others that have solid, honest, productive traffic...they are the ones that I am talking about.

Anyway, I have mouthed off enough, and I am sure there are many of you who will disagree with what I said, but that doesn't mean you are right ;-) Kidding, okay??

Boneprone, I am not sure yet, but I may be in Vegas in January. Have a good one, bro, and maybe we'll hook up then!

09-19-2002, 09:29 AM
Zilla Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: The USA Posts: 40	Hey, Boneprone, thanks for the kind words, bro :-) Yeah, I drop in here once in a while and throw out some of my idiotic thoughts if a thread really grabs me. Regarding this thread...well, obviously I am going to disagree with it because I own a TGP and from my experience I see paysites making a ton of money from Thumbzilla traffic, and I see plenty of webmasters over the years making money from Thumbzilla traffic. And, I can tell you straight out that I have never had a complaint from any of my sponsors. Never. As a matter of fact, sponsors are usually happy if I decide to promote their programs on Thumbzilla. So, naturally, when I saw RogerV's post, I was taken aback. I honestly did sign up for Porn Kings just over a week ago and was planning to start promoting their new program, I think it is called freefreeprogram.com, on Thumbzilla sometime this week. It looked to me like it could do quite well on Thumbzilla, and so I was going to really push it and see how it did. And, I can honestly say that there are many webmasters, newbies and experienced, who, when they see Thumbzilla pushing a program, try it out for themselves, too. This is something of which my sponsors are quite aware...they know that if a big TGP pushes their program, it is going to cause a lot of other webmasters to try pushing that program on their sites, too. Thumbzilla and other TGPs provide a service to webmasters and to surfers. We post about 200 galleries per day that were submitted to us by webmasters. On each of those galleries, those webmasters are promoting a sponsor or his or her own paysite. I think that most of the sponsors out there are quite aware that a large percentage of the signups that they get to their paysites came either directly or indirectly from TGP traffic. Nevertheless, it is clear that there are some sponsors out there that actually do consider TGPs to be the enemy! I guess that RogerV is one of them. So, I am really glad I saw this thread before I started pushing his program on Thumbzilla. If there is one thing that is very important to me in both personal and business relationships, it is loyalty. I have sponsors on Thumbzilla that have been there since the day I started the site! I am very loyal to them and they are very loyal to me. Some of them are very big and well-known. They appreciate the value of a Thumbzilla! They are quite aware that not only has Thumbzilla made them quite a lot of money, but also many webmasters, newbies and experienced alike, have signed up for their programs simply because they have seen Thumbzilla using those programs for so long and they figure, well, if it works for Thumbzilla, maybe it will work for me, too. These sponsors have made Thumbzilla a lot of money, but Thumbzilla has made them a lot of money, too! So...I am loyal to them, and they are loyal to me. From what I have read in this thread, I have come to realize that it would be stupid of me to promote RogerV's program on Thumbzilla because 1) he does not know the value of a TGP, 2) he resents my site, and 3) he could never have a sense of loyalty to me and therefore would never appreciate the money that Thumbzilla would make for him. That is a shame! But, all is not lost: as I indicated before, there are many big sponsors out there who, unlike RogerV, have the vision to see the value of TGPs. Obviously, I am biased, but in my opinion many of the TGPs are the backbone of the adult internet! They keep the traffic flowing and glowing ;-) Certainly there are TGPs out there that deal in pretty low quality traffic, but there are many others that have solid, honest, productive traffic...they are the ones that I am talking about. Anyway, I have mouthed off enough, and I am sure there are many of you who will disagree with what I said, but that doesn't mean you are right ;-) Kidding, okay?? Boneprone, I am not sure yet, but I may be in Vegas in January. Have a good one, bro, and maybe we'll hook up then! __________________ (-)Zilla(-)