also for smokey:
the robber DID have a gun & was raising it to engage the NRA i.nstructor
it was in ohio & we have the "obligation to retreat law"
but apparently, the judge found that he was justified.
also, the guy from the forum said that the man saying things like "hurry up before i shoot you" & other things that a lowlife like this robber would say.
i agree that that baby was in close proximity, but situations like this are never ideal to begin with. the NRA guy didnt "use an unarmed victim for cover".
and lots of robbers do shoot there victims after they have successfully obtained the money & dont have to do anything else but leave.
why they would shoot someone they just successfully robbed i have no idea, but i can tell you this. a woman in my hometown was shot & killed by a robber who came into her convienience stor. after he had they money he could have easily turned & ran away. but for some reason, he shot her in the face multiple times.
also you say that the NRA guy put everyone in unneccessary danger... but everyone was ALREADY in danger when the guy came in with a gun to rob the place.
ok people look.... sociopaths exist... whatever is wrong with thier mental wiring to make them be that way we have no idea... sociopaths have a strange want to hurt & kill people... violent crime in america is an epidemic, the reason why is because of all the criminal coddling laws... it seems that violent offenders in this country have more rights than the victim, because some jackass always wants to make excuses for the bad guy saying things like "he was disadvantaged & poor. he had to commit that crime because society put him in a situation where he had no other choice".... bullshit...
i am not a "gun nut" who wants to be able to shoot someone... but i am not willing to be a victim to a scumbag like this guy.... also, all of us who are willing to defend our lifes from the criminal degenerates in society are not "gun nuts".... we are people who choose not to be a victim & nothing more....
i agree that the whole situation was not ideal, but when is it ever ideal...
for the record, the mother of that baby wrote a letter in his defense saying that she felt that her life was probably saved that day...
i just domt understand why anyone would fualt the law abidin citizen, & give any recourse to the bad guy... saying things like "just let him take the money & leave" encourages criminals to continue thier ways.... its no different than raising a spoiled child.... it is human nature to continue to do things if you are not punished for them...
i might not agree with what some of you are saying. but i will defend your right to say it
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i am not a violent person... i am a prudent man who will not tolerate an attack from a dirtbag like this... i hope that none of us are ever put in this situation.....
i have had a gun pointed in my face & the guy holding it was asking his homeboys if he should shoot.... i was scared that i was going to die.... i thought about my mom crying at my funeral, and my then girlfriend, & all my other family.... i also kept thinking to myself "this fucking punk has the nerve to pull a gun out & ask his homies if he should shoot me" i was also thinking " if i had a gun & could get to it without being shot first that i would have killed that piece of shit right there"
but that is just me.