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Originally Posted by MikeyFingaz
i am a member on a gun forum board where one of the members was involved in a shootout.
this happened in ohio.
http://media.putfile.com/How-To-Make-Swiss-Cheese80
the guy who shot back was an NRA firearms instructor.
he said that the perp raise his gun towards him when he seen the NRA guy start to draw down on him, thats when he fired at the robber.
the video makes it look like the baby is closer to the muzzle of the weapon than the baby actually was. the baby was 3 feet or more to the right of the good guys gun.
the robber was hit with all 3 rounds fired. he lived & got 7 years.
the NRA instructor was found innocent.
crackhead boy will think twice before robbing his next victim.
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Here's what's right and wrong about this entire scenario.
1.) The fucking counter top is NOT a baby seat. The establishment exchanges money and a baby on top of the counter, whether held by it's mother or not is WRONG.
2.) The NRA guy who is armed is sitting down BEHIND and BELOW his defensive and offensive field of view and platform. He's on a computer and he can't see the perpetrator enter. Note that the perpetrator is wearing all black and a ski mask and is well inside the door before action is begun.
3.) The counter girl is smart. She doesn't hesitate and goes to give the money immediately. Money is insured but it ain't worth dying for.
4.) The counter girl is to the right of the NRA guy. His field of view and defensive platform are compromised by her presence and girth. She's no small fry woman and he has to step around her in order to draw his weapon. He does so and clearly telegraphs his moves. I'm surprised he and the counter girl weren't shot.
5.) As the perp makes a hasty retreat while the NRA guy's weapon is being discharged he is still able to make it to the door. No. The first round should have dropped his ass to the ground. He was still moving with weapon in hand. No. Weapon in hand means one shot, one kill.
6.) The NRA guy stands there posing with weapon in hand INSIDE the store while the baby and mother are still within the action platform! It 'looks' as though the perp is down outside but where's the weapon? Does the NRA guy go and disarm him to make sure? Does anyone order the mother and baby to go behind the counter to safety? Were ricochet solutions considered?
7.) Shooting him in the back is NOT an act of cowardice. He was moving AND still had a weapon. As long as he had that weapon OR the NRA guy reasonably believed he may have had a second weapon, his option was to stop his ass cold. A gun is the manifestation of one statement: "I said stop NOW!".
This could have turned into a worse case scenario. The mother and establishment were at fault with the baby on the shelf in the first place. Luckily the NRA guy is a good enough shot and the perpetrator an asshole or all could have been lost.
If you're carrying a firearm as defense of an establishment you drill, drill, drill and maximize all field control options. Not, jump up and draw your gun slower than a Star Wars Stormtrooper.
It's a scary moment in a gunfight but cool heads and sharp wits will prevail. 9 times out of 10 a robber will not shoot if things go as smoothly. Yet you never know and it's a case by case basis on what to do. In this case the robber is lucky his ass is alive.