http://www.google.com/
http://www.yahoo.com/
Ever notice how incredibly clean google's main page is compared to yahoo's? Google is the 2nd search engine next to Yahoo, correct? The Hun's been saying it forever, and I have finally followed suit with my sites, treat your visitors with respect and you will succeed. You have to be in it for the long run. Yahoo even has popups now... you can tell that google is going to reign supreme.