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Old 02-21-2006, 12:37 PM  
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Originally Posted by chase
Not necessarily true.

I didn't think I was affected by this issue, and I have my hands really full with other things, so I had reserved judgement on the issue. Then, last night, I did a search and found almost my entire member's area..not from my current paysite, but from my old AVS site. So, clearly I needed to give the issue higher priority.

I slept on it, and I decided to contact Kathleen about it. I asked about removing my content, and she not only did it immediately, but she blocked the main search term associated with my content. She was prompt, professional, and wonderful to deal with.

Now, of course I hate the idea of my content being out there for free..but the fact is, it is *still* out there. removing the images from Guba does not remove them from the newsgroups. So I have a few options..I can police the newsgroups myself, use DRM on my content, or pay/reward someone to police the groups for me. I am a single mom to three, and to be honest, I don't think I can cram much more work into my day...certainly not the amount of work it takes to police the newsgroups. DRM is a possible solution, but I know that it will likely affect my retention, and that will affect the affiliates that are counting on me to ffer their traffic a product that they will want, and want to keep...so it's not an easy decision there. That leaves the third option, which is what I've decided.

I can post a sample here and there myself on the newsgroups-just like I do pic posts and such, and I can add that if anyone reports unauthorized pics of me being posted, I will give them a short-term free membership. Maybe it will work, maybe it won't. But I feel it's a more proactive approach then complaining. Your content being on Guba is a symptom of a deeper rooted disease that only YOU can solve. It's your content, so protect it at the root of the problem, or use the problem to your advantage by releasing teaser content yourself, and/or working closely with Guba to ensure only authorized content is in their database/system (they've proven to me, at least, a willingness to do so)...people who have joined Guba have proven they will buy memberships. Turn lemons into lemonade and use that to your advantage.

I do really understand why so many of you are pissed...I hope it doesn't sound like I am dismissing your concerns. But the fact is, they are within the law, and you can either complain and stomp your foot about it, or do something about it. I choose to take action, and to work the system to my own advantage.
Well said, although I quite disagree with the bulk of it.

Again, this solution places the onus on us as content producers to proactively police our own content - at our expense. It puts the burden of responsibility on the victim and seeks to lessen or absolve the perpetrator of the infringement and wrongful redistribution of copyrighted intellectual property.

I am glad to hear you were able to reach an amicable solution for yourself through your contact with this organization. Unfortunately, after 10 years of production that includes upwards of 60-70k pics with a wide variety of filenames, sets and series in many different genres and categories - it would be next-do impossible for us to establish the extent of our content on Guba in a similiar manner. Our images have been posted and reposted on Usenet for nearly a decade by others. The logistics simply make it an impossible task to track.

And you are in error about them being "within the law". Although I'm not a lawyer, I've had many years of dealing with copyright laws and issues through our own company lawyers. Years ago I also ran a Yahoo discussion group that dealt primarily with copyright issues relating to the adult industry and several of our contributing group members were copyright attorneys at the time.
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