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Originally Posted by Gerco
Why do you think that "fisting" is obscence? In fact is a normal practice that quite a few groups engage in daily. It's not to hurt someone or degrade them in anyway and the reciever and giver are willing and want it to happen AND enjoy themselves during the act. I'm sick of people pointing to it as "Obscence". Obscence is when one or more partys to the act DO NOT have a choice in that act, be it by force or mental capabiliaty. (See underage or bestiality) THATS what I would find obscence. People shooting shit out of thier asses all over themselves? Hey if they like it who am I to judge them... It's not hurting anyone, YOU don't have to look at the pictures. Mostly people point to something as obscence due thier own lack of understanding as to what a subject is about.
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While I basically agree with you, you must realize that obscenity laws aren't based on what you as an individual *think* is obscene or isn't. Material is deemed obscene when it is compared to the community standard of tolerance and found to be over the line.
It's certainly not a perfect system of determining it because one man's meat is another man's poison, no question, but it's the only system society has for obscenity determination.
As far as I know, fisting falls outside the community standard of tolerance in much if not all of the USA currently.