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Thedoc - if guba just offered newsgroup access, there would be less issue.
They don't.
The exercise editorial control. They filter, extract, manipulate, compile, organize, and transcode content without permission. Because they pick and choose what they are offering, they are not offering unfiltered usenet access, but in fact are taking the content and reselling it away from the usenet, and just hanging the usenet name on their business hoping nobody comes knocking at the door.
I suggest you go join Guba and see - and compare that to your ISP's newsgroup access (which many ISPs have completely dropped).
Alex
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