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Originally Posted by Barefootsies
But as the saying goes, it's easier to keep a model then find new one's. So we treat ours well, and then tell them if they refer others we'll pay them a 'referral fee'. Nothing gradious, but a little something extra as a thank you. Through that, and keeping my networking profiles active, as well as a few other things. The models and girls contact me now. So I rarely have to recruit anymore. Just meet with them, sort out the flakes, and those who are not a good fit for our stuff.
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Word of mouth advertising is the best! I pay a referal fee to any model that brings another. It isn't a lot of money. Less than what I would pay an agent but it is just a nice way of saying "Thanks!!"
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Originally Posted by Barefootsies
. We did have some of those pimp hat types, who would tell us that they could line up the women for miles, and the trade off is we would have to show them the business, give them referral money, and all these other things. Out of a few dozen in the past two years, not a single one could ever deliver what they claimed. So we always tell the pimp hats, you deliver everything you say you can, and THEN we'll talk. Until then, fuck off.
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You know that is the problem with this industry in a nutshell! Everyone and their fucking brother claims they can do more for me than the holy messiah himself. And I have that exact same point of view. Show me the results and then we can discuss money. Until then, you're just another shit talking asshole and I've heard it all before!!
What gets me is it is these same people that promise you the world and then get pissed off when you tell them you're not interested. Or if you do take a chance on them, they get angry when you do expect them to do everything they said claimed they would. Ultimately they all do the same thing and that is resort to slander and attack your reputuation. My only comment is "FUCK OFF AND DO YOUR JOB!!"
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Originally Posted by Barefootsies
Same with referral for them. If they want an 'agent fee' or finders fee, then you get it from the girls. Not us. We have some women who wanna 'negotiate' as well. They want more for less. We've also had some who want more money, but then will give us an all day shoot, etc. But I will not budge.
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Like you, I make it very clear what I want and how much I pay. You can take it or leave it. When I was talent it was the same thing. The decision to work for someone at a certain price was up to me. When I worked for VCA I knew it was $1000 for anal with my husband, my call time was at 2pm but I wouldn't get home before 3 am. It's just the way they worked and I knew that. I even turned them down once. And I was known to do anal for $500 if I the entire shoot took less then 2 hours from the time I arrived on set. (IE: My call time is 1pm and I'm in my car driving home by 3:05pm.)
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Originally Posted by Barefootsies
I need a lot of faces to fill up three sites, and different looks, and whatever. Not a month's worth of reruns of the same girls.
Plus doing it my way, we get fresh college cuties for our sets. Not rundown half drunk, half stoned, rode hard, put away wet type of looking girls. When you deal in 'girl next door' type of things. They need to remotely look like they still have some innocense left. Not danced it away in the bar, or up their arm.
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LOL I have a collection of photos of the run down, old and scary looking women. Like you, when I shoot I have a ton of work to do. We have several large markets that we distribute our DVDs to. Creating our product is crazy because we have flimed as many as 3 gonzos in a day. And filmed EVERY DAY, NON-STOP for 3 months.
Here is my problem with France....
There has got to be perhaps 12 quality girls out here and they are in EVERYTHING! These girls might be sweethearts and my husband adores Ana Martin. But most of them hardly have a Fresh Look and I can't make my videos with that few girls. Most don't have a flexiable look and once I have filmed them a couple of times... Thats it!!
And they all want to use condoms!!! My clients won't buy even 1 of my DVDs if there is a single condom in it.
Perhaps this country is great for making features and porn-chic. But I make the same return on my money with gonzo and have less headaches.
I mean do the math.... I can crank out a feature for between 20k euro to 35k euro and I make the same amount of money as if I made a 5k euro to 8k euro gonzo.
But it takes me 3-5 days to shoot it and long edit times. Whereas I can easily crank out a hardcore gonzo each day. When you look at it that way, I probably make more NOT fucking around with features.
And yea I'm going to stick to the underground. The newspaper ad is usually just to kick start us in an area.
But what I find is really important is the "cultural attidudes." In the United States, there is an acceptance to exchange sex for money.
Other countries.... Well....
Lets just say BLESS AMERICA!!!