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Originally Posted by John Marco
all I'm saying is what surfers care about is HOT PICS AND VIDEOS... why on earth would a surfer care about design? it makes no sense to me.. the best programs have simple sites with HOT PICS.. 
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John go look at some of the old school ccbill single girl sites out there. If i was
a surfer there would be no way in hell i would input my cc info into those sites.
I could post some links here but i am not tryin to out anyone...