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Originally Posted by ronbotx
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Bush is ... dunno if he's an idiot or not, but sure runs a secretive operation for a democracy and has caused more harm to the US than bin Laden ever could, - economically and in many other ways.
Don't assume everyone just "bashes Bush" because they just like doing it. If that conduct existed in any other western nation - rest assured whoever the leader was, would get an equal "bashing". Hell... they'd be thrown out of office.
Bush, sad to say, is a manipulator - or, his "team" are. Honestly is not a prime consideration, nor are legalities, either within the US or elsewhere. In the process, other commonly accepted standards within any democracy fall by the wayside. Perhaps that is why people in other nations have this "concern" - they basically have and accept "freedoms" and rarely mention them. This is a slight contrast to the constant talk of "freedoms" and "values" from the current US admin.
Only my

worth - but I just don't like to see folks get screwed - not once, but repeatedly, and be taught "the way it is" and "what we need to do about it". But rest assured, the US, even under the current regime is not top of the league for abuse.