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Originally posted by RogerV
I'm just curious if anyone of you who are complaining run your own sites? I'm not slamming anyone just curious?
do you guys know what the average retention is?
Do you know how many people cancel the first day?
I am am looking into the terms and conditions with epoch right now.
As far as the 5 day free trial goes You get 5 days free. I think the terms are confussing and we will get it resolved and we are looking into it.
we just started cross sells to compete with the other top programs out there. Which we have been having much success with.
We are not scamming because they have an option to get the free cross sells and they have the option to cancel those free trials with ease. every free trial they choose to except they will recieve an email confirmation of it. So they can cancel.
we do not automatically bill them a full membership.
there are a few people who do a full membership offer with no trials like bangbus. I don't know there numbers so I cannot coment on them. It sounds like they are doing well with that model because of there exclusivecontent.
each program has its own formula to profit.
Just choose what fits you best.
If you would like to contact me all my info is on Pornkings.com
Good luck
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well said Roger....and if you were to say "we're going to lower payouts" webmasters would run away screaming like they were on fire....if you come out with a lower paying program, they'll ignore it....if you do a site without trials, most will ignore it..
the biggest problem I have seen over the last few years isn't shaving, tgp's, corssbilling, etc. it's that most affiliates expectations are too high and they have forgotten to pre-sell..even sponsors...most of them brag more about "see it cheap" on their tours than "see this high quality" Both affiliates and sponsors seem to have gotten lazy in the selling department and rely more on cheaping it out....
there is also a problem where webmasters forget to think like surfers....it's hard for a program to balance what will "sell" to webmasters and what will sell to surfers...