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Old 12-18-2005, 06:16 PM  
biftek
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Victoria, Australia
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echelon and carnivore

carnivore was knocked on the head years ago saying but after september 11th it was quickly put back on the table

echelon has been running for years , australia was the only coutry that admitted to such a program running until recently
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