Dirty F

I'm tired of the weekly comparison threads. A few people swear by chameleon and a few say you wont make money without dreamsubmitter.

I wrote this last month on another board. This was before Chameleon upgraded with new options. Read it and at the bottom i will add the options in the review.

When i submit i used chameleon. A few people kept mentioning DS and how all the big guys use it. Finally, after months i decided to switch last week. I was hesitating because Chameleon did everything i needed so i had no real reason to switch. But i decided to give it a try anyway.

The first thing you have to notice when opening DS is the HUGE fucking amount of options compared to CS. It scared me at first but i didnt wanna give up already so i downloaded the tutorials and started working on the dbase. In 1 word: Horrible. Everything that could go wrong went wrong. I followed the tutorial step by step and still nothing did what i wanted it to do. Still i didnt give up. I worked with it for 2 days, hours in a row. I really needed to know why the big guys were using it and what i was missing using CS.

Well, now a few days later im back at using CS.

The things i personally will miss not using DS:
1: Sheduling submissions upfront. Not being a big submitter i totally can live with that. Maybe thats different for you, if you need something like that then consider DS.
2: Apparently DS can auto submit to sites using passphrases and CS cant do that.
Depending on how many sites you submit to using phrases this can save you anywhere from 1 min to 1 hour. Do you have 500 sites on your list using phrases then DS is the tool you want.
3: Maybe some small stuff like different templates for the same submit session. TGP a accepts 3 outgoing links, TGP b only 1. DS can do this for you. It has a lot of small detail options like this. If your daily job is submitting galleries you might need all this stuff.

Other than that CS does everything DS can and not to forget its 50x times easier to work with.
A lot of people mention you can build your own dbases with DS. Well, you can do exactly the same thing with CS. If youre a lazy guy, CS updates the dbase a few times a week, you dont have to do shit if you dont want to.

In the end i'm pretty positive i can get the same results as the big submit guys using DS with CS. Maybe a bit more work but certainly EASIER work.

For me, getting to learn DS is simply not worth my time.

1 thing i do have to mention. The DS support was awesome. I had a few questions and stuff and they helped me right away! So dont let that stop you from buying it.

Conclusion:

You are a full time submitter. Submitting is your only income. You take it very seriously and want to make every penny possible with it. You want to shedule galleries. You want to work with different templates for different tgps. You want the smallest details accessible in a script? Youre not afraid to spend quite some time figuring it out? Buy DS.

You want something you can learn in 2 hours? You want a constantly updating dbase.
You want the program to think for you yet getting good to very good results? CS is the way to go. Once again, im pretty sure with the right lists and partner passes anyone using CS can make as much money as someone using DS.

Update december 14th:

Chameleon submitter added passphrase automatisation. So 99% of the submits where you had to fill in a pass manually can now be put on the auto submit list. This was one of the biggest pro's Dreamsubmitter had compared to Chameleon.
Also added scheduling. I never use this but i think its only up to 1 gallery. So you can go to bed and shedule a gallery for 5 in the morning for example. Also with the option to shut down the puter after the submit.
Also it now has the option to use different recips for different categories. One of the options Dreamsubmitter had that could be a reason for some people to switch to Dreamsubmitter.

With these 2 options added i personally don't see a reason anymore to buy Dreamsubmitter. It still has a few really small detail options but honestly, you can live without that. Missing those really small detail options but using a program that is 50 times easier to work with - well figure it out for yourself. I know what i would chose.

There are some people here who claim you cant make the same $ using chameleon to submit is (certainly now with the new options) complete BS.

Both products are awesome but with the updated version of Chameleon Dreamsubmitter has to simplify their product in order to get more people to use it because right now theres no reason to master it while you can start submitting with Chameleon in a hour and make the same amount of money.