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First off, I am not cheap (I'm not sure how you arrived at that conclusion - as if being critical of someone who you think may be price gouging makes one cheap).
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i'd hate to see what your opinion is of "first rate" if you think a 9-day tour in ANY foreign country for 1500US is expensive. yes, this means you ARE cheap & on top of it all, you must not read (or listen) since i broke all this down but... since you CONTINUE to be a fuckin ass, i'll break it down to you more.
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Secondly, I didn't get rich (and continue to get rich) by spending money foolishly on rip-off schemes.
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the fact that you call this a rip-off scheme shows your ignorance & audacity. well, i don't have to vouch for my integrity as several people have done that (which i appreciate very much... thanks). so, what does that say about YOU?
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If you are honest with yourself, and I believe you have traveled Thailand extensively as I have (I've made over a dozen trips in a 20+ year span), then you should realize that the prices Qon is charging for what he is offering are ridiculous (afterall, since he is "group booking" the locations, the price he pays to the facilities should be substantially lower than what he is passing on to people who pay for his service - if that's true, then he should have no problem disclosing the locations, etc).
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maybe you didn't read my previous reply where i said ANYONE can contact me DIRECTLY to get this information. i will not be publishing where my guests will be staying... seems you like you just don't get this so we'll move on as i can't make it any more clear than i already have.
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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
I have no problem with Qon profiting from the difference between what he paid for group booking accomdations and the standard rates, but if he is charging far over market value, then yeah...he's ripping people off. In my book, stand-up guys don't do that (especially not to my fellow webmasters).
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when is the last time you've been here? and when you came here did you stay in 5-star hotels or did you find the cheapest place that was simply clean? as someone ELSE has said in this thread, quality doesn't come cheap... even in thailand. no one that has been on my tour has felt ripped off... this isn't our first time doing this. is internext ripping people off cuz their passes are 300 bucks? do you see value in that? hell, you only get to walk around and look at the booths!

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
Any legitimate "licensed" travel agent I have ever dealt with has had no problem laying out my entire itinerary prior to me laying out a dollar (or baht in the case of Thailand).
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i am not a travel agent.... HELLO!!!! i answered this in the first reply... iteneraries are great for those who like the ADVENTURE of doing it alone... my guests don't come for fucking adventure they come to relax on a nice vacation where all those issues you DO have to concern yourself with on an ADVENTURE are no longer a concern. jeeeezus why don't you GET THIS??
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I have refrained from all of the name calling and what not. That's unnecessary. Qon came spamming his "deal", and as one who has been there and done that, I simply called him out on it since to me it honestly seemed pretty outrageous.
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no, it is necessary when it is quite obvious you're 1) hating on the fact that we CAN do this, we ARE doing this and we're GOOD AT IT or 2) you want to give me more thread views which is great but still makes you look like an idiot :2cents:
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My whole last trip to Thailand - all expenses - including airfare and hookers (which Qon doesn't cover) cost me less than $1,500, and I lived life large, not on the cheap as you and Qon keep implying.
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this is a SERVICE that includes all costs minus entertainment... you can go with the service or without the service. some prefer the service because in the long run it will save them time, money & headaches. find another tour to thailand for less (as i've said before... again). you won't. that's what market research is about. most of them cannot offer what we offer & they may not be as familiar with the landscape.
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BTW, I don't illegally photograph hookers in Thailand either. Instead I am so cheap that I spend upwards of $70,000 a year legally shooting here in California. It's not cheap, but the ROI (return on investment) is plenty to make it worth my while.
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"legal" is a subjective term... it all depends on what you know, who you know & how much you have. whoever said i was shooting in thailand?
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Anyway, I have no beef with you, and would in fact like to meet up with you some day Dugmor. I'm sure we would have some good stories to swap. Hell, cheap me, I'll even pick up the drink tab.  Same with Qon. I don't know you, so I don't dislike you, I am simply offering an alternative viewpoint for people to consider. This is an open forum as I recall, right?
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fuck you
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If you want to lay out your intinerary for people, and show them what a great value you have to offer, you might even get more customers. 
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nope... security reasons. personal contact for this info only... i won't say it again. i'm not saying the info is not available, i'm just saying i won't be putting it on the net for any & everyone to access. that's just irresponsible. your ignorance of this very simple concept is quite obviously the reason why you could NEVER organize an endeavour such as this.
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If on the other hand, if you don't want to show it because people will see that it's not such a great deal, and perhaps they are paying more for their accommodations than they would had they gone through another licensed travel agent, or you are stacking them double occupancy (not saying you do, but it's a common scam - making people pay double for single occupancy), then I understand your desire to say nothing while demanding money, and using fear tactics and hookers (that are not included in the expenses) as your primary pitch.
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: hookers are fuckin great... do you have a problem with hookers? nobody i know does... especially the guys who come to thailand for multiple vacations. no one on my tour has to be concerned with staying in a room with another guest... as i've said, its individually first rate & even more enjoyable because of the group atmosphere. this isn't our first time doing this & the many cats who do know me, know how much i value my reputation & they will be treated like family while they are with me.
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Thailand is a wonderful country to visit. There is much to see and do there. I encourage everyone to visit at least once (although after they visit once they will want to return again). Fortunately there is more that one alternative for booking your stay...
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yes it's great... fortunately the people who WILL book this tour with US have a brain & can see your assassination tactics. did i fuck your girlfriend or somethin? maybe a bar girl you were sending money to? i dunno... but i guess i should thank you for this opportunity to expound on what we offer here. like i said, those interested can contact tony or myself personally for specifics as to daily activities, accomodations & other general questions. we always have a short orientation on arrival but anything to make you feel more comfortable (within reason) BEFORE you arrive is cool with me.
http://www.worldpleasuretours.com/ & info [AT] worldpleasuretours.com - hope to see you there
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