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Old 11-08-2005, 09:49 PM  
gideongallery
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Originally Posted by punkworld
You are wrong. Plain and simple. Science does not need a "counter theory" for every theory, which can be proven false, which would somehow prove the other theory right. That's abject nonsense, and does not make sense on any level - if only because theory x being wrong says absolutely nothing about theory y.
It is not theory x and theory y (that the logical falacy) it theory P and Theory NOT P.

You should have learned the concept of what 100% means in grade school.
If you define two theories x and y and they can overlap that it means you have not defined a P/NOT P relationship. It means that our understanding of the universe has not reached the level in which we can define the P/NOT P relationship.



A "law" is a theory which has survived so many tests that people don't doubt it anymore. Nevertheless, it is only a very strong theory, and has not been proven true because the induction problem makes it logically impossible to prove empirical theories.[/QUOTE]

Considering that the opposite of Doubt is Faith you just made arguement that the laws of the universe should be defined as laws when enough people have faith that they are true.

The theory that higher power (god, aliens) seeded the primordial ooze with cultures that were prone to multiply and EVOLVE (like lab tech do with bacterial cultures) is supported by every shred of evidence that proves that evolution by a random events. But in addition to all that emperical evidence i have the easily and repeatedly observed fact that control manipulation produces desired results more effectively that true randomness.

Every time we manipulate the genetic structure of a plant to give it a desired feature that nature did not produce randomly by itself we produce more emperical evidence that something must have influenced EVOLUTION.

If faith defined weather a theory should become a law, then the theory of evolution would never have come about. Remember that the theory of evolution was the counter theory when darwin created in. Creationism (or more specifically a subset of creationism-- biblism) was what everyone believed in. Darwin theory came about by question the assumption that God exists and asking the question is there an explaination that allows us to come into being without divine intervention. It WAS a counter theory.
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