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Old 11-08-2005, 11:51 AM  
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Originally Posted by GigoloMason
I guess the fact that I agreed with you in principal went right over your head. My point was that Hume's refutaion of the design arguement specifically has much more classical roots.
And you tried to make that point by getting his argument wrong, claiming it was "that probability after the fact isn't a valid philosophical support".

His arguments (yes, that's a plural) do have more classical roots. However, since you apparently have no clue what his arguments are, I strongly doubt that you know what those roots are.

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Originally Posted by GigoloMason
As for the rest I simply found it amusing that you felt the need to validate an arguement that stands on it's own by 'name dropping' a dead philosopher. Since you seem so 'well read' what would Hume say about you externally validating your arguements?
Very few philosophers would object to referring to someone who already made the argument, and better than you ever could yourself, instead of writing a whole new book on it.

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All philosophy requires you to make some sort of unfounded assumption at some point.
That is not only untrue, it also follows a foundationalist model of knowledge. The foundationalist model of knowledge, however, isn't used much anymore these days, since it is clear to most intelligent people that knowledge exists in a coherent body rather than in some infinite tower of stacked beliefs. Thus, the very claim that philosophy requires making unfounded assumptions is entirely meaningless.

However, what I was referring to was method rather than foundation, and it is exactly there where the difference between philosophy and belief shows. Belief is not a valid method of justifying beliefs (if it were, it would be more than a little circular), logic and rational deliberation are.
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