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Old 11-01-2005, 12:47 PM  
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Originally Posted by 4TheMoney
Right away you are going to think rep for iBill - Not the case, however I do have a connection with them.
It certainly seems suspicious, due to the fact that you're not known in the industry, you just registered today and you've only
posted about how great iBill is.



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then everyone will see that iBill is back, and this time it is for real.
I think we've heard this one before. "No really, this time we mean it."



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With the GKard, and the new lock box payment system, iBill never even
sees your money. We get a check just like you do.
This is very suspicious wording, if you're not an agent of iBill.




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the only people who know where all that money went is the old owners.
Aren't the old owners the same as the new owners?




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I'm new to the whole adult web commerce format.
Then perhaps you should listen to those who have been around the block a time or two.




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I have had no problems with them so far, hence my trust in them.
I'm happy for you. However if you're new, like you say, then the fact that you haven't
had problems doesn't count for much. A few on time payouts does not build much of a
reputation for reliability in light of iBill's continuing payment issues.



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I on the otherhand am trying to get a message out that you don't want to be heard, obviously.
For someone who just processes with iBill, you sure seem awfully ferverant about spreading this message.



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I have had people swear by Ford Trucks, but some guy in Podunk, PA had a problem with his once,
should I never buy Ford again?
Your analogy is flawed. The Ford Pinto would be much more accurate...

The rush of the Pinto from conception to production was a recipe for disaster. Many studies have been
concluded by Mother Jones on Pinto accident reports which have revealed conclusively that if a Pinto being
followed at over 30 miles per hour was hit by that following vehicle, the rear end of the car would buckle
like an accordion, right up to the back seat. The tube leading to the gas-tank cap would be ripped away
from the tank itself, and gas would immediately begin sloshing onto the road around the car. The buckled
gas tank would be jammed up against the differential housing (the large bulge in the middle of the rear
axle), which contains four sharp, protruding bolts likely to gash holes in the tank and spill still more
gas. Now all that is needed is a spark from a cigarette, ignition, or scraping metal, and both cars would
be engulfed in flames. If a Pinto was struck from behind at higher speed say, at 40 mph chances are very
good that its doors would jam shut and its trapped passengers inside would burn to death.

(From: http://www.fordpinto.com/blowup.htm)


Of course not EVERY pinto blew up and killed its passengers, so lets give the Ford Pinto a second chance!!!!




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Originally Posted by 4TheMoney
Oh yeah, and I had one problem with iBill, my banking info wasn't correct, so if you know
webmasters who aren't getting paid, maybe they should check that out first before they call iBill crooks.
So the forty two million dollars iBill owes is due to incorrect banking information? iBill would undoubtably
be aware that checks are getting returned and wires not going through, shouldn't they contact their customers when
they know there's a problem sending the payments?




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Originally Posted by 4TheMoney
If you listen to webmasters for advice then listen to this - I USE iBill - I have had no problems with them.
But you're already admitted you're new. Plus nobody knows you, so unfortunately you don't have much credibility. Its good you're
had no problems with them, but don't expect other people to give what you say as much credence when it runs contrary to
the testimony of other people who are known and respected. The one post that Tony404 made saying he has been paid, does FAR more
to help iBill's case than ALL of the posts you've made.



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So for any other webmasters out there who don't actually get off to the porn they sell, like ROB, feel
free to use your own mind in making a decision on who you choose to process for you.
For someone who just processes with iBill you're taking this awfully personally.



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There is a light at the end of this dark iBill tunnel that you speak of... It's going to take a short
while to get to that light, but you will get there. Let's do this, stop all the talk! Let iBill prove
all of you wrong, and become the #1 Processor AGAIN! You'll be begging them for a phone call to rejoin.
Why do you care so much?

I'd love nothing for there to be more than two viable North American IPSPs, however iBill is damaged goods. It will take
a lot for them to be credible again. They may be able to come back, but with the outstanding debts and the similarity
in management they're not looking too good.



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Quite possibly Rob, the people who aren't on here posting, are the one's getting paid. I believe that iBill had
more than a couple hundred customers, and when you do the math, a very small portion of them are on here complaining.
So more people are happy than not, and you just can't get over the fact that someone else is getting paid and a few
of your friends haven't gotten paid yet.
At one time we accounted for about 1% of iBill's revenue and we've been paid most of what we're owed (except of course the web900).
However that doesn't change the fact that the way iBill handled the whole situation left a very bad taste in our mouths. We're
happy we got paid, but we're not particularly happy with iBill. This doesn't mean we are opposed to doing business with iBill again, but
its not worth the risk when there are other viable options out there.
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