Originally Posted by Kevsh

heheh - At the New Orleans SEO show I tried using Hurricanes (a very strong rum drink ... at least, I think it was rum ... oh, and no pun intended) to get some of those guys talking. Apparently, they get loaded pretty well on their own.

Also met the Google engineers, but that was useless. They had the look of a hot blonde at a bar who knows that everyone in the place wants a piece of her.

But I did pick up some useful tips, tools and access to some private SEO boards ... but the big lesson was that White-Hat SEO = Newbs (or however you spell that term these days). If you really want to make a dent in the SERPs, you've got to get ugly.