Another example of the principle you described with this post:
Many black activists are either ignorant of or in denial about the extent of black participation in the American slave experience. Blacks owned slaves to a degree way out of proportion their population in the South. Indeed, many of the more brutal and larger slave owners were freed/free blacks.
http://americancivilwar.com/authors/...laveowners.htm
Which illustrates again... If "victims" were given a chance, they easily become "victimizers."
Early Zionist movements predating Theodore Herzl suggested a Jewish homeland...not in Palestine but in the Caucasus. While I can sympathize with Jewish history [the typical European pattern is a. they get invited in to bolster trade and provide financial services since the Papacy forbad Christians from lending with interest b. when the local merchant class gets up to speed...kick out the Jews c. shakedown the local Jewish community for cash...specially during Easter] I cannot sympathize with using "victimhood" as a cover for agression.
However, as unpalatable the whole victimhood approach is I still believe that Israel has the right to exist solely due to one basis--they conquered the region. They got in through the Balfour Declaration and they expanded and maintained their presence through the use of arms. There seems to be a double standard when it comes to Jews' experience with expansion of territory through conquest.......hell, Germany was shrunk down after it lost WW2, why can't Israel increase its size after beating its Arab enemies? Throughout history, countries increase in size through conquest. Hell, there's even precedent for Israel to kick out all Palestinians [see mass German migration from newly annexed territories after WW2].
The reason for the double standard, rightly or wrongly, is a global anti-colonial sensibility. Started in the 20's under Wilson's principles ["right to self determination"] and infused with 60's ethnic awareness. If this was the 1800's, the Palestinian problem would have been "solved" a while back. The fact that it still exists is a testament to either Western nations' evolving sensitity to ethnic politics or a lack of political will.
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Originally posted by [Labret]
I can see where you are trying to go with this, and you are taking what I said the wrong way.
My point with the Canaanites was only to show 1 instance out of many where Judaism advocates genocide.
A people so hellbent on playing the eternal victim to the world at large, are themselves guilty of every single crime they accuse everyone else of perpetrating against them. The Jews are not sheepish little victims. Not by any means.
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