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Old 10-15-2005, 11:31 PM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by Wolfy
wow, what an awesome thread. I'd like to thank the content producers for weghing in on this thread, it's given me the insight that I always look for when I come to gfy, but rarely find.

Look around - a while back, people started bitching about tgps and shitfuck sites doing the fusker thing. The focus and complaint of everyone. including me, was that free porn was killing our pocketbooks and it needed to be stopped! Well...

TGP's are still up and rocking, but they aren't doing as good as they used to. Fuskers, despite the billions of threads on htaccess etc, are still up. And like predicted, we are all making less because of the free porn. Now I read this thread form in my mind a completely different perspective - the producers viewpoint. You guys are frustrated because content is being given away when it should be more valuable, the work that you do is becoming worth less and less every day. You complain and rationalize and reason, but it makes no difference - you're headed down that road, and there are no off ramps.

I feel your pain, but at the same time I rejoice, because this is just like any other party. The mood shifts, people pass out and new people arrive - and the ones that realy come out on top are the ones that can see change coming and stay sober enough to bring that hot chick a drink at the opportune moment.

Cheers my friends, here's to evolution. May the strong survive.
Good point and for many this is the problem. They are competing at the bottom of the barrel and suffer from the amount of free porn available.

However if you think a guy can pick up a camera, find a model and within a few weeks do what I can then you're in the wrong business. Look at the sites rising to the top and ask yourself why. Are they getting better traffic numbers, conversion ratios and retention because they are cutting the costs of the one thing they actully sell or are they doing the opposite of 90% of the Adult Internet?

I was recently asked to shoot content like Perfect Gonzo, when the guy heard the price he told me he could get it cheaper elsewhere. I told him to go and get it then, he has not and never will at the price he's willing to pay. Which is why those at the top of the tree are in a good place.

Lensman said at the Amsterdam seminar on content that the big porn producers are not top on the traffic figures, I wonder if Private retain for an average of two months?
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