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Originally Posted by Temp1
There is a big difference between speaking in a 'civil manner' and being 'respectful'. If the story went as he told it, was he being civil? I think so. Are there dickbreath cops that will try to push and act like imbeciles just to get a reaction from you? Yes. does that mean you need to take it and be 'respectful'? I dont agree with that.
That is why it helps to know the law. If you speak to them in a way that they know you know your rights, that shuts them up. In other words, you just outsmart them. Yea, yelling at a couple of a half-wit cops isn't going to work. You tell them - in the scenario above - that you answered their questions several times as did your girlfriend, that you believe this is turning into borderline harrassment, that if this continues they need to call their sargeant on the scene (by law, they are supposed to do that. they dont like it but you can request a superior and they need to comply) and you need to call a lawyer as well.
See if that works.
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Heck no!
The officer is responding to a complaint and a possible RESCUE. Domestic situations are the most DANGEROUS.
I've lived in the most dangerous neighborhoods in the U.S. and RARELY ran across a cop who didn't know how to do his or her job. I know my rights and have more cops in the family and friends than I can shake a stick at. Was raised by cops too. In all those years I've run into a little more than a handful of cops who didn't know what they were doing and I handled the situation as I was trained to. They either lost their jobs or got corrected and were back on the job better at it.
You don't get into an antagonistic fight with the officer. If he's acting like an asshole, let him run with it, that's more ammo for your attornies and the investigation board of their IA.
You're the citizen who they're supposed to protect and serve and they have the charge to uphold the Constitution. You're the customer, but they're the appointed officer to 'enforce' the law. If the law says 'arrest antagonistic kid who smells like pot' then they 'enforce' that law.
If the law said to arrest anyone wearing a turtleneck sweater, they arrest people wearing a turtleneck sweater.
They have only a small margin of 'if' they feel the law should be enforced.
You should have said "Thanks for coming by officers, it's just a small matter of my girlfriend running up bills on the cell phone, you know if you've got kids how that can be. Women, you can't live with em' and you can't live without em' Chuckle, Guffaw, Chortle, Giggle."
And he would have said "Okay, but if it happens again I'll run ya in. Since your girl says there's been no physical altercation and I, at a glance and a brief interview, determine this is to be the case I'll letcha' off with a warning."
You then say goodnight, thanks, and get some new pussy.