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Originally Posted by alan-l
yes, MikeW, Bruno Dickman, EnvisionNext just to name a few who don't own a paysite are just newbies doing this for a quick buck. And 99% of sites made by "paysiteless" designers are failures due to this 
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Nobody said they are failures. I said it was stupid that they bash each other. And you are correct; MOST designs built by these companies don't stand up over time. I know, I have purchased at least one design from almost every major design company over the last 9 years.
Many programs don't have designers so they have to get it some where.. It isn't hard to build a tour that will get sales; it is hard to build one that will hold the ratio for years. So as I said, any design company that can build a nice site is no different than the other design company down the road, other than maybe the cost of the work..
IE: Stupid that they bash each other..