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Mutt · 10-01-2005, 12:46 AM

Paul - you have been chasing your tail around this issue for as long as i have known you existed. The problem is you were a magazine photographer and you have never been able to accept that for various reasons the markets are two entirely different animals. 99% of the guys shooting custom exclusive content for the Interent were pure amateur photographers - the adult biz was born and amateur photogs from all over the world had a hunch that seeing all these porn pics on the Net(most scanned from magazines or from a few BBS originated CD's again mostly old magazine crap) that these guys with these websites might pay for them to shoot nude pics. They'd email different sites and say 'I can find models and shoot this stuff, how much will you pay me?' Not many webmasters were buying custom anything, they were too busy stealing content and figuring out how to steal traffic from fellow webmasters, spam, and rip off surfers. The amateur photogs found ATK - still the largest single exclusive content buyer on the Net - Kim set the price what an amateur photoset was worth - to him. It wasn't a great price and to a magazine photographer it would seem an insult BUT he would buy way the fuck more content on a girl than a magazine - and he'd pay them fast - and his expectations weren't high - amateur was fine - change her clothes, change the background - now to an amateur photographer who may have been working at job for $50-100K a year driving an hour back and forth to work being able to make the same living doing something more fun, shooting naked 18 year olds from home that sounded like a great life. Photogs easily clear $500 a day doing a shoot for ATK or Karups or any of the sites that came to follow in their footsteps and on better days maybe a grand - good amateur shooters should be able to make 100K a year if they work hard - some do less some do better. Because you're a guy with a magazine background you've got a hangup about the value of a photoset and your worth - and obviously you've arrived at the conclusion finally that it does make sense to shoot for bargain basement prices - you want to sell amateur sets for 5 bucks apiece - you'll have to sell that set 30 times over - how long will that take?

sites like ATK no longer expect/accept crap though - what was 'amateur' in 1999 isn't what's 'amateur' in 2005.

as long as ATK and Karups set the price for an amateur exclusive photoset - that was it - there was nothing any shooter could do about it if he wanted to remain in business - webmasters ain't stupid - they find out this information and they aren't going to pay much more if any more than ATK for the same thing. Not to mention your European buddies who when costs were alot lower over there were willing to sell for $75-100 bucks a set.

most photogs worship ATK.

10-01-2005, 12:46 AM
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	Paul - you have been chasing your tail around this issue for as long as i have known you existed. The problem is you were a magazine photographer and you have never been able to accept that for various reasons the markets are two entirely different animals. 99% of the guys shooting custom exclusive content for the Interent were pure amateur photographers - the adult biz was born and amateur photogs from all over the world had a hunch that seeing all these porn pics on the Net(most scanned from magazines or from a few BBS originated CD's again mostly old magazine crap) that these guys with these websites might pay for them to shoot nude pics. They'd email different sites and say 'I can find models and shoot this stuff, how much will you pay me?' Not many webmasters were buying custom anything, they were too busy stealing content and figuring out how to steal traffic from fellow webmasters, spam, and rip off surfers. The amateur photogs found ATK - still the largest single exclusive content buyer on the Net - Kim set the price what an amateur photoset was worth - to him. It wasn't a great price and to a magazine photographer it would seem an insult BUT he would buy way the fuck more content on a girl than a magazine - and he'd pay them fast - and his expectations weren't high - amateur was fine - change her clothes, change the background - now to an amateur photographer who may have been working at job for $50-100K a year driving an hour back and forth to work being able to make the same living doing something more fun, shooting naked 18 year olds from home that sounded like a great life. Photogs easily clear $500 a day doing a shoot for ATK or Karups or any of the sites that came to follow in their footsteps and on better days maybe a grand - good amateur shooters should be able to make 100K a year if they work hard - some do less some do better. Because you're a guy with a magazine background you've got a hangup about the value of a photoset and your worth - and obviously you've arrived at the conclusion finally that it does make sense to shoot for bargain basement prices - you want to sell amateur sets for 5 bucks apiece - you'll have to sell that set 30 times over - how long will that take? sites like ATK no longer expect/accept crap though - what was 'amateur' in 1999 isn't what's 'amateur' in 2005. as long as ATK and Karups set the price for an amateur exclusive photoset - that was it - there was nothing any shooter could do about it if he wanted to remain in business - webmasters ain't stupid - they find out this information and they aren't going to pay much more if any more than ATK for the same thing. Not to mention your European buddies who when costs were alot lower over there were willing to sell for $75-100 bucks a set. most photogs worship ATK. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!