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Old 07-20-2002, 05:21 AM  
falafel
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Ramat Gan, Israel
Posts: 37
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Originally posted by CDSmith
So you've pretty much got it all figured out have you? It's set in your mind that my suggestion is no good for you no matter what anyone says. Right?

Then don't sit there and say that your life and the lives of your wife and kids are most important to you. They aren't. If they were you wouldn't hesitate.

It's not only in Toronto that you'd be welcomed. All over Canada, and I'm sure most of the big U.S. cities as well, people simply wouldn't really care where you're from. You speak decent English, you're a smart guy, I'm sure you'd get along just fine and feel like anything BUT an outsider.

But don't tell me your family is important to you and then reject a direct suggestion to aid in their safety bro. It doesn't wash. You're willing to subject them to living in fear for another 3 to 5 years, never knowing if one day one of you or all of you will get blown up. Crazy.
Running away when it's hard is not a solution.
If people like will take their feet and run, who will stay here to keep this country going ?
In fact, in a couple of months I have 32+ days of reserve military service and I'll go an fulfil my duty.
I saw here a different thread about why Europeans hate Americans.
Let me tell you that not only that I don't hate Americans, I admire them and they inspire me.
People tend to slander Bush, but I saw how he fought & fighting terrorism and I can only salute the man for that.
At last there's someone in this world who doesn't take anybody's crap.

Why am I staying ?
First of all, I'm 30, single, no wife yet, no kids (as far as I know) so my decision involves me and me alone.
Since 1948 something like 1500 people died in terror attacks in Israel.
Compare it to 3000 that died in one single day on 9/11.
That's funny, I didn't see New Yorkers running away from their beloved city and I don't wonder why.
I totally understand it.
This is their city, this where they built their lives and terror (including nuclear one) can strike you anywhere, anytime.
So I'm staying here in my country because this is my place.
Theoretically, if I had a specific good business opportunity elsewhere for a specific period of time I'd probably look at it, but running for the sake of running is out of the question.

As for "what if" America leaves us.
First, I don't see it in the near future of the next 25-50 years, but I agree with the general idea of "never say never".
I can only say that it's very hard to imagine but if it will happen I have no doubt that we will continue to be here standing on our feet.
In 48 when we were only half a million people here, no arms, no regular army, no US backing we won the battle against 5 strong Arab armies.
Today Israel has one of the strongest armies in the world, and I'm saying it not because I read it in some paper.
I am a part of that army.
Here, military service is mandatory between the ages 18-21, then you do reserve service about once a year for a month more or less.

Yes, we have nuclear weapons because that is our insurance policy against Arab countries hate.
Unlike all the corrupt Arab regimes Israel is a democracy (the only one in the middle east), so the use of this weapon is not in the hands of "one crazy leader" but rather in the hands of a responsible government.
We will never use that nuclear weapon unless we will be 100% with our backs to the wall (or to the sea for that matter).
Israel is being assisted a lot by the US and personally, although I know many political interests are involved, I am very very appreciative.
I don't take any of this for granted.
However, I know that even someday, if the US will stop its backing, we will continue to win all wars if ones will unfortunately occur.
We have one little secret that helps us to win every single war: we have nowhere else to go.
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