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e5hosting · 08-18-2005, 07:00 AM

Does Cogent Suck?

WARNING: Most Hosting Companies Do Not Want You To Read This!

Well Cogent is defiantly the lowest-priced bandwidth a hosting provider can provide, but a lot hosting companies will use them in their bandwidth mix because of the cost savings and many will defend them to no end. So in rather giving you my opinion I would like to show you how to use some tools to test any hosting company?s network and let you form your own opinion.

Lets check a hosting company who should we use? Hmmm...
Let?s pick on a big guy www.ev1.net (because I know they use Cogent)

Here are the steps

1.) As www.isprime.com (a very good hosting company) has pointed out? let?s check who they are peered with (note fixdorbit.com is not 100% accurate but is close enough for what we are doing) first.

http://www.fixedorbit.com/search.htm

Enter the IP or host name to find AS for
IP/Domain ev1.net

Giver use a return of

Peers Neighbors
ASN Name
174 COGENT-PSI-1
2828 XO-AS15
2914 VERIO
3561 SAVVIS
4323 TWTC
6461 ABOVENET
7911 WCG

So we have confirmed they are using Cogent in there mix (and more likely for most of there bandwidth).

2.) So now let?s test the ev1.net network from around the world and see how well it performs. To do this you should actually compare two networks at the same time. Since I am posting this I?ll volunteer www.e5hosting.com (we are on NTT/Verio?s network).

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Here is the definition of traceroute - http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/t/traceroute.html
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So it?s going to be: www.ev1.net vs www.e5hosting.com

But we can not just do a trace route from you local computer we need to test the network from around the world. So we are going to use www.traceroute.org (this has a site that list traceroutes from around the world) and are the easiest way for the average person to check someone?s network performance.

We will be looking for two things? one the fastest times and? two the shortest amount of hops to the destination. I?m? only going to run a few traceroutes from a few different countries using, but feel free to test your own.

Here is the first test from Argentina ? http://daemon.servit.com.ar/cgi-bin/trace

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www.ev1.net returned the following from Argentina http://daemon.servit.com.ar/cgi-bin/trace
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traceroute to ev1.net (207.218.192.46), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 lineaAO86.velocom.com.ar (200.59.46.86) 0.829 ms 0.378 ms 0.64 ms
2 lineaAT246.velocom.com.ar (200.59.50.246) 0.34 ms 0.558 ms 0.282 ms
3 200-47-54-238.comsat.net.ar (200.47.54.238) 0.6 ms 0.633 ms 0.816 ms
4 200.47.201.101 (200.47.201.101) 169.398 ms 169.402 ms 170.029 ms
5 200.47.201.1 (200.47.201.1) 132.66 ms 132.133 ms 132.485 ms
6 216.6.2.6 (216.6.2.6) 132.334 ms 132.145 ms 132.284 ms
7 216.6.2.5 (216.6.2.5) 169.916 ms 178.55 ms 169.538 ms
8 if-1-3.core2.NJY-Newark.teleglobe.net (64.86.138.145) 168.996 ms 164.585 ms 164.552 ms
9 if-3-1.mcore4.NJY-Newark.teleglobe.net (216.6.63.5) 258.542 ms 209.902 ms 167.494 ms
10 if-4-0.core1.NTO-NewYork.teleglobe.net (216.6.82.5) 165.072 ms 164.467 ms 164.892 ms
11 p4-1-3-0.r04.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.8.101) 165.082 ms 165.647 ms 169.867 ms
12 p16-1-1-0.r21.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.48) 165.272 ms 170.867 ms 164.815 ms
13 * * *
14 xe-0-2-0.r20.asbnva01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.4.118) 164.798 ms 164.75 ms 165.451 ms
15 p16-0-1-1.r21.dllstx09.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.34) 196.557 ms 197.207 ms 197.141 ms
16 p16-6-0-0.r02.hstntx01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.101) 234.656 ms 203.986 ms 204.012 ms
17 ge-0.ev1.hstntx01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.10.66) 183.345 ms 185.829 ms 183.197 ms
18 ivhou-207-218-223-85.ev1.net (207.218.223.85) 183.713 ms 183.781 ms 184.092 ms
19 ivhou-207-218-223-85.ev1.net (207.218.223.85) 184.199 ms 183.89 ms 183.453 ms
20 ivhou-207-218-223-85.ev1.net (207.218.223.85) 184.411 ms 187.475 ms 183.64 ms
21 ivhou-207-218-223-85.ev1.net (207.218.223.85) 185.24 ms 183.432 ms 183.374 ms
22 ivhou-207-218-223-85.ev1.net (207.218.223.85) 183.505 ms 183.428 ms 183.719 ms
23 ivhou-207-218-223-85.ev1.net (207.218.223.85) 184.437 ms 183.529 ms 184.362 ms
24 ivhou-207-218-223-85.ev1.net (207.218.223.85) 191.431 ms 183.573 ms 183.653 ms
25 ivhou-207-218-223-85.ev1.net (207.218.223.85) 183.624 ms 193.5 ms 185.233 ms
26 ivhou-207-218-223-85.ev1.net (207.218.223.85) 184.487 ms 184.521 ms 183.315 ms
27 ivhou-207-218-223-85.ev1.net (207.218.223.85) 183.398 ms 183.627 ms 189.642 ms
28 ivhou-207-218-223-85.ev1.net (207.218.223.85) 183.479 ms 183.718 ms 184.277 ms
29 ivhou-207-218-223-85.ev1.net (207.218.223.85) 183.77 ms 184.2 ms 183.727 ms
30 ivhou-207-218-223-85.ev1.net (207.218.223.85) 184.506 ms 183.59 ms 184.382 ms
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www.e5hosting.com returned the following from Argentina http://daemon.servit.com.ar/cgi-bin/trace
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traceroute to e5hosting.com (198.65.137.252), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 lineaAO86.velocom.com.ar (200.59.46.86) 0.844 ms 1.164 ms 0.358 ms
2 lineaAT246.velocom.com.ar (200.59.50.246) 0.329 ms 0.295 ms 0.487 ms
3 * 200-47-54-238.comsat.net.ar (200.47.54.238) 1.014 ms 0.621 ms
4 200.47.201.101 (200.47.201.101) 169.368 ms 169.857 ms 170.183 ms
5 200.47.201.1 (200.47.201.1) 132.569 ms 132.481 ms 132.845 ms
6 ComsatInternational.so-1-1-2.ar2.MIA1.gblx.net (64.214.174.146) 132.249 ms 132.086 ms 132.356 ms
7 so-1-1-2.ar2.MIA1.gblx.net (64.214.174.145) 132.635 ms 131.952 ms 135.393 ms
8 so2-1-0-2488M.ar1.DCA3.gblx.net (67.17.67.57) 166.52 ms 185.252 ms so7-2-0-2488M.ar1.DCA3.gblx.net (67.17.64.69) 161.891 ms
9 verio.ar1.DCA3.gblx.net (208.51.6.34) 161.282 ms 161.859 ms 164.352 ms
10 xe-0-2-0.r20.asbnva01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.4.118) 162.838 ms 164.002 ms 161.299 ms
11 mg-1.c00.stngva01.us.da.verio.net (129.250.28.202) 162.257 ms 162.178 ms 162.044 ms
12 161.58.156.189 (161.58.156.189) 162.276 ms 169.68 ms 161.401 ms
13 198.65.137.252 (198.65.137.252) 161.319 ms 161.551 ms 161.237 ms
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And here are the results?

www.ev1.net hopes = 30 and time= 184.382 ms (milliseconds)

www.e5hosting.com hopes = 13 and time= 161.237 ms (milliseconds)

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Continues on next thread --->

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08-18-2005, 07:00 AM
e5hosting e5hosting.com - Get your server today - Proud GFY Advertiser Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 1,065	Does Cogent Suck? WARNING: Most Hosting Companies Do Not Want You To Read This! Well Cogent is defiantly the lowest-priced bandwidth a hosting provider can provide, but a lot hosting companies will use them in their bandwidth mix because of the cost savings and many will defend them to no end. So in rather giving you my opinion I would like to show you how to use some tools to test any hosting company?s network and let you form your own opinion. Lets check a hosting company who should we use? Hmmm... Let?s pick on a big guy www.ev1.net (because I know they use Cogent) Here are the steps 1.) As www.isprime.com (a very good hosting company) has pointed out? let?s check who they are peered with (note fixdorbit.com is not 100% accurate but is close enough for what we are doing) first. http://www.fixedorbit.com/search.htm Enter the IP or host name to find AS for IP/Domain ev1.net Giver use a return of Peers Neighbors ASN Name 174 COGENT-PSI-1 2828 XO-AS15 2914 VERIO 3561 SAVVIS 4323 TWTC 6461 ABOVENET 7911 WCG So we have confirmed they are using Cogent in there mix (and more likely for most of there bandwidth). 2.) So now let?s test the ev1.net network from around the world and see how well it performs. To do this you should actually compare two networks at the same time. Since I am posting this I?ll volunteer www.e5hosting.com (we are on NTT/Verio?s network). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is the definition of traceroute - http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/t/traceroute.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So it?s going to be: www.ev1.net vs www.e5hosting.com But we can not just do a trace route from you local computer we need to test the network from around the world. So we are going to use www.traceroute.org (this has a site that list traceroutes from around the world) and are the easiest way for the average person to check someone?s network performance. We will be looking for two things? one the fastest times and? two the shortest amount of hops to the destination. I?m? only going to run a few traceroutes from a few different countries using, but feel free to test your own. Here is the first test from Argentina ? http://daemon.servit.com.ar/cgi-bin/trace ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.ev1.net returned the following from Argentina http://daemon.servit.com.ar/cgi-bin/trace ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- traceroute to ev1.net (207.218.192.46), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 lineaAO86.velocom.com.ar (200.59.46.86) 0.829 ms 0.378 ms 0.64 ms 2 lineaAT246.velocom.com.ar (200.59.50.246) 0.34 ms 0.558 ms 0.282 ms 3 200-47-54-238.comsat.net.ar (200.47.54.238) 0.6 ms 0.633 ms 0.816 ms 4 200.47.201.101 (200.47.201.101) 169.398 ms 169.402 ms 170.029 ms 5 200.47.201.1 (200.47.201.1) 132.66 ms 132.133 ms 132.485 ms 6 216.6.2.6 (216.6.2.6) 132.334 ms 132.145 ms 132.284 ms 7 216.6.2.5 (216.6.2.5) 169.916 ms 178.55 ms 169.538 ms 8 if-1-3.core2.NJY-Newark.teleglobe.net (64.86.138.145) 168.996 ms 164.585 ms 164.552 ms 9 if-3-1.mcore4.NJY-Newark.teleglobe.net (216.6.63.5) 258.542 ms 209.902 ms 167.494 ms 10 if-4-0.core1.NTO-NewYork.teleglobe.net (216.6.82.5) 165.072 ms 164.467 ms 164.892 ms 11 p4-1-3-0.r04.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.8.101) 165.082 ms 165.647 ms 169.867 ms 12 p16-1-1-0.r21.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.48) 165.272 ms 170.867 ms 164.815 ms 13 * * * 14 xe-0-2-0.r20.asbnva01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.4.118) 164.798 ms 164.75 ms 165.451 ms 15 p16-0-1-1.r21.dllstx09.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.34) 196.557 ms 197.207 ms 197.141 ms 16 p16-6-0-0.r02.hstntx01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.101) 234.656 ms 203.986 ms 204.012 ms 17 ge-0.ev1.hstntx01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.10.66) 183.345 ms 185.829 ms 183.197 ms 18 ivhou-207-218-223-85.ev1.net (207.218.223.85) 183.713 ms 183.781 ms 184.092 ms 19 ivhou-207-218-223-85.ev1.net (207.218.223.85) 184.199 ms 183.89 ms 183.453 ms 20 ivhou-207-218-223-85.ev1.net (207.218.223.85) 184.411 ms 187.475 ms 183.64 ms 21 ivhou-207-218-223-85.ev1.net (207.218.223.85) 185.24 ms 183.432 ms 183.374 ms 22 ivhou-207-218-223-85.ev1.net (207.218.223.85) 183.505 ms 183.428 ms 183.719 ms 23 ivhou-207-218-223-85.ev1.net (207.218.223.85) 184.437 ms 183.529 ms 184.362 ms 24 ivhou-207-218-223-85.ev1.net (207.218.223.85) 191.431 ms 183.573 ms 183.653 ms 25 ivhou-207-218-223-85.ev1.net (207.218.223.85) 183.624 ms 193.5 ms 185.233 ms 26 ivhou-207-218-223-85.ev1.net (207.218.223.85) 184.487 ms 184.521 ms 183.315 ms 27 ivhou-207-218-223-85.ev1.net (207.218.223.85) 183.398 ms 183.627 ms 189.642 ms 28 ivhou-207-218-223-85.ev1.net (207.218.223.85) 183.479 ms 183.718 ms 184.277 ms 29 ivhou-207-218-223-85.ev1.net (207.218.223.85) 183.77 ms 184.2 ms 183.727 ms 30 ivhou-207-218-223-85.ev1.net (207.218.223.85) 184.506 ms 183.59 ms 184.382 ms ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.e5hosting.com returned the following from Argentina http://daemon.servit.com.ar/cgi-bin/trace ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- traceroute to e5hosting.com (198.65.137.252), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 lineaAO86.velocom.com.ar (200.59.46.86) 0.844 ms 1.164 ms 0.358 ms 2 lineaAT246.velocom.com.ar (200.59.50.246) 0.329 ms 0.295 ms 0.487 ms 3 * 200-47-54-238.comsat.net.ar (200.47.54.238) 1.014 ms 0.621 ms 4 200.47.201.101 (200.47.201.101) 169.368 ms 169.857 ms 170.183 ms 5 200.47.201.1 (200.47.201.1) 132.569 ms 132.481 ms 132.845 ms 6 ComsatInternational.so-1-1-2.ar2.MIA1.gblx.net (64.214.174.146) 132.249 ms 132.086 ms 132.356 ms 7 so-1-1-2.ar2.MIA1.gblx.net (64.214.174.145) 132.635 ms 131.952 ms 135.393 ms 8 so2-1-0-2488M.ar1.DCA3.gblx.net (67.17.67.57) 166.52 ms 185.252 ms so7-2-0-2488M.ar1.DCA3.gblx.net (67.17.64.69) 161.891 ms 9 verio.ar1.DCA3.gblx.net (208.51.6.34) 161.282 ms 161.859 ms 164.352 ms 10 xe-0-2-0.r20.asbnva01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.4.118) 162.838 ms 164.002 ms 161.299 ms 11 mg-1.c00.stngva01.us.da.verio.net (129.250.28.202) 162.257 ms 162.178 ms 162.044 ms 12 161.58.156.189 (161.58.156.189) 162.276 ms 169.68 ms 161.401 ms 13 198.65.137.252 (198.65.137.252) 161.319 ms 161.551 ms 161.237 ms ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And here are the results? www.ev1.net hopes = 30 and time= 184.382 ms (milliseconds) www.e5hosting.com hopes = 13 and time= 161.237 ms (milliseconds) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Continues on next thread ---> -