im not calling it a scam or anything, it's just not something I would ever put on my site because of the legal issue.
This is a conversation I had with a similar company:
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[00:50] Ebus_dk | GFY: im not talking about 2257, it more that the content you have on the site is licenced content, we both know that.. and since its posted illigal in newsgroups, you dont have the licens..
I think that makes it a legal problem for me to link to it
[00:51] XnXaXmXeX: Contrary to popular belief... a good portion of the content that appears within the newsgroups has been posted there intentionally by the copyright owner
[00:51] XnXaXmXeX: As you can imagine...
[00:51] XnXaXmXeX: Usenet sustain a worldwide audience of millions
[00:51] XnXaXmXeX: so it's a highly effective advertising vehicle for adult webmasters...
[00:52] XnXaXmXeX: Of course we must meet DMCA regulations...
[00:52] XnXaXmXeX: in the even that we are notified by a copyright owner that they do not want their content within a newsgroup
[00:53] XnXaXmXeX: we have 24 hours to review that complaint and remove the content...
[00:53] XnXaXmXeX: Usenet is actually more reponsible & responsive to those type of issues than other areas of the Internet
[00:53] XnXaXmXeX: FTP... peer-to-peer... email... etc
[00:54] Ebus_dk | GFY: your program is good - no doubt, But i cant risk it.
Lookat it this way. One of my partner is the guys from busty.pl - I see a LOT of their content right there on the site.. and i know for a FACT that those guys DONT like it being in the news groups...
It would put me in bad staning with a lot of my partners
[00:55] XnXaXmXeX: That's your call Kristoffer, and I completely understand... just keep in mind that what people say in public, and what they do privately to promote their business are two different things
[00:55] XnXaXmXeX: We work with a large number of adult entertainment companies...
[00:55] XnXaXmXeX: that actively use the newsgroups to promote their businesses...
[00:55] XnXaXmXeX: they understand that they can post their older content...
[00:55] XnXaXmXeX: which benefits the groups...
[00:56] XnXaXmXeX: ..and in return they reach a huge audience of potential customers for their sites...
[00:56] XnXaXmXeX: that don't mind the promotional message being delivered in that format...
[00:56] Ebus_dk | GFY: so do I :-)
But people that use the newgroups as promotion, tend to watermark the content so the surfers know where to look for the site.. and I dont se a lot of watermarks on those pictures
[00:57] XnXaXmXeX: I'm only speaking from my experiences, providing this type of service to commercial clients over the years...
[00:58] XnXaXmXeX: copyright violations take place in much larger quantities within other areas of the Internet
[00:58] XnXaXmXeX: Looking at that in total... Usenet represents a small fraction of that...
[00:58] Ebus_dk | GFY: I run a union of webmasters as well - we are dedicated to be 100% honest and progressive with legal issues..
With just ONE single ilegal picture in your system, and im pulling the plug on my own koncept
[00:59] Ebus_dk | GFY: what happens on the internet, and what lawa that are broken there have nothing to do about how others should do bussiness
[01:00] XnXaXmXeX: Usenet predates the Internet, and has been an active community long before the adult entertainment industry discovered the Web...
[01:00] XnXaXmXeX: We're not flying under the radar in any respect...
[01:00] XnXaXmXeX: ...and just about every major ISP provides access to the community...
[01:01] XnXaXmXeX: If we were the irresponsible, lawless community that some folks like to portray...
[01:01] XnXaXmXeX: it would have presented a problem many years ago, for both law enforcement agencies and these large commercial entities providing the service
[01:02] Ebus_dk | GFY: there is no point in discussing it any further - its not a program mu network or I would use.
But thank you for taking your time to present me with the software/script - its a good program, but just not for us
[01:02] XnXaXmXeX: not sure why we bothered with the demo...
[01:02] XnXaXmXeX: if you already had this preconceptions about the newsgroups
[01:02] Ebus_dk | GFY: because there was a potential :-)
[01:03] XnXaXmXeX: not really, but thanks for the opportunity Kristoffer, and best of luck with your sites.
[01:03] Ebus_dk | GFY: look - spare me the sales tricks ;-)
I have been in in sales for to long for that to work on me
.. Thanks again, and have a good day
Session Close (XnXaXmXeX): Fri Aug 12 01:04:08 2005
Session Start (300894038:XnXaXmXeX): Fri Aug 12 01:05:59 2005
[01:06] XnXaXmXeX: not a sales trick Kristoffer... you had no interest in Usenet for the reasons that you noted, and those views were obviously established well before we stepped through the demo... we could have simply saved each other the time, that's all I'm saying.
[01:06] XnXaXmXeX: No hard feelings
[01:06] XnXaXmXeX: and thanks again for the opportunity.
[01:06] XnXaXmXeX: got a run, have another demo
[01:07] Ebus_dk | GFY: no . trust me I se potentioal.. but I wanted to se how you handled the legal issues with the content.. Like I said we have look at those script ourself on our own server, so I know how it works
[01:07] Ebus_dk | GFY: se = saw :-)
Session Close (XnXaXmXeX): Fri Aug 12 01:07:50 2005
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.. and it goes on for some 3-5 minutes. Again - im not calling them scammers - you deside for youself if it's something you want