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Old 07-26-2005, 04:51 PM  
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Originally Posted by rickholio
For the record, TheKing refuses to accept that personal liberties have been curtailed in any form by this administration, even in the face of direct proof to the contrary. Rather than admit that section 213 of the USA PATRIOT act allows police to enter your home without warning or notification for 'Sneak and Peak' (a clear reduction on personal rights and a direct attack on the 4th amendment), he simply stopped commenting on the situation. You can see the exchange here.

For what its worth, I don't believe he's 'disassembling'. I honestly think he believes that everything is hunky and/or dory with this administration and any rights that were lost were ones that 'people really weren't using anyways'. As a result, trying to refute his claims with logic and fact are often wastes of time except as a means on which to hone your rhetorical skills.

That said... game on.
Your conclusions about my position do not accurately reflect my position about the Patriot Act and I did not "simply stop commenting" on the situation as I made my points and did not have any other points to make.

The Patriot Act still requires permission from the Courts before the police can carry out whatever part the Patriot Act they want to enforce. The Patriot Act only affects those that are suspected of criminal activity and/or "terrorist" activity. It does not affect every day Joe citizens.

Will there be mistakes made...undoubtedly...as there has been with a multitude of other laws. Will there be some abuses of the law...undoubtedly (none have been found yet that have teeth)...as there has been with a multitude of other laws.

I do not fear the Patriot Act and it has been veted before Congress (I watched the entireity of the hearings) so if the Congress approves the Patriot Act again it will be with wide open eyes.

Do I approve of all aspects of the Patriot Act...no...do I approve of its intent...yes.
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