Originally Posted by alexg

sometimes some human right must be limited or harmed in the name of national security (which is also essential in any democracy). in any democracy there needs to be a good balance between human rights and national security depending on the various current circumstances.

just as an example, most countries have an army. for some it is even essential to their existance.
the army is definitely not a democratic institute. soldiers don't enjoy many civil rights. but this has to be done in the name of national security.