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Join Date: May 2004
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Nice Volkswagen the Lambo. Looks like an Audi too.
It's a pity that Lamborghini has ZERO heritage, when it comes to pedigree.
That's why Saudis, and ... love them.
They're not really into heritage much.
If you just saw how pathetic Lamborghini was, in F1, or whenever they tried to race anything, in the last years, You would know why people prefer Ferraris. They failed badly. Zero technology, when compared to Ferrari. Why do you think that Italians don't buy Lambos?
They're not exactly classy fast cars, nor they're the technological peak, but they're expensive. Of course, Ferrari produced crap too (348), but also some mean beasts, and some very sexy ones too. Ferrari has class, Lamborghini never had, except the Miura. It's just a cheesy expensive car, with a creepy old engine, with little research, and no pedigree. Even the website is damn cheesy.
The Aston / Ford, very nice, a pity it's owned by Ford.
Heritage? better than Lamborghini, but close. Who gave a crap about Aston for the last 30 years? Vantage was gorgeous, but why would people not buy them, beside English? All it takes is a Bond movie?
It's like the Junk GT40 replica. It's junk, that's it. Expensive Junk, and has nothing to do with the kick ass original racing GT40. Those were other times.
An Enzo costs Ferrari $350.000 to build. A Lamborghini maybe, but really maybe, $80k, a Ford GT40 supermaybe $40k. That's how much technology you have in those things. Want to measure things another way?
An M3 is more noble than a Lamborghini, or a GT40, or a Aston Martin.
Let's start with the ones that do not cheat to gain horsepower, the real engines, without turbochargers, or other cheap ways to get hps.
Lamborghini is barely over, in this latest engine, 100 hp / liter.
The Mucielago stops at 93 hp / liter.
That's where a Lamborghini can get, and that's one of the reasons why Europeans will look at you in a snobbish way, when they pass you with a Ferrari, or even an M3. They'll think you're someone that made money, but have no real class, no taste, and understand little about cars.
Aston's 12 cyl. is more or less 86hp / liter (Or even as low as 75hp/liter!)
Aston's 8 cyl does a bit better...88 hp / liter.
BMW's M3 is at 104 hp / liter...When did it come out?
Ferrari 430 is 113 hp / liter, Wow!
Ferrari Enzo, in 2002 had 108 hp / liter. Beat that without a cheap Turbo.
That's 3 years ago.
A GT40 with the pathetic supercharger trick, manages to get 101, even less than an old M3! And if you read reports, the thing fall apart, suspensions cracking, and other really crazy things.
It gets tragic when you take off superchargers, such as in the Viper, you end up with 60hp / liter! The previously mentioned Renault Clio, which was also a kick ass mini car, had more power than that. I had one that had, I think, almost 90hp / liter. No wonder Renault does so well in F1, they know how to build an engine, rather than trying to glue together engines that are 200 years old, and slap superchargers in it, or use engines that are more fit for 18 wheelers.
Heritage, and reasearch, you cannot beat that, no matter what. You can even hardly beat Pininfarina. He know how to design cars. The new Lamborghini really looks like an Audi prototype. There's nothing Italian in that car, beside the name.
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