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Originally Posted by FightThisPatent
to me 'pornopgraphy' is a very broad descriptor that describes content of a sexual nature.
'snuff films' are pornographic just like a playboy magazine is pornographic, and everything in between.
'child porn' is a sub-genre.
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A sub-genre???!!!
Are you, then, in
favor of lumping the sexually exploitive acts committed upon children with everything else pornographic??
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Originally Posted by FightThisPatent
trying to alter the definition to mean its 'consenting sex for adults' is limiting. what about fiction writing? there are no "consenting adults" other than what the author says they are.
to jack's point, 'pornography' can be a not so negative word, to relate to healthly, stimuating sexual (mind, body, spirit) experiences... but no matter the case, you can choose to define what the word means to you, but the real issue is how the word is applied.. much like how words are applied in racist remarks.
at every point that pornography as a whole is associated with child pornography, is where the active correction is needed.
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It seems to me, the simplest, clearest, easiest way to erase EVERY point that pornography is associated with cp.. is simply to STOP CALLING IT PORNOGRAPHY. There's your active correction! Why would you want to make it more complicated and convoluted than that?
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Originally Posted by FightThisPatent
one of baddog's opening questions was what can be done about it?
this is exactly one of the missions of ASACP.... it is the answer to WHO is going to do WHAT about CP.
FSC is off on other issues and has no focus on this point from what i can tell.
You have brought up some great points, but without action and focus, it's philosophical musings in the shadow of obscenity charges and prosecutions.
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What can be done about it? Seems to me that I gave my answer in the quote he took from my blog. A LOT CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT, and we don't need ASACP or FSC or GOD. It's a word. That's all it is. It's a word that can mean what we make it mean. It doesn't require mobilization, and it doesn't require action and OR focus. It doesn't even require any sponsorship or superhuman effort from anyone. It just requires you to choose a different word.
Are you trying to tell me that's too hard for you to do?
I'm not talking about the right to produce/distribute/consume porn, so the rest of this is irrelevant.
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Originally Posted by FightThisPatent
The "right" that so many feel that they have to distribute 'pornography' is quickly being challenged by the morality groups, pointing to spam, typo-domains, seo trickery, easy access for children to inadvertanty see naked people having sex,etc.
it is about 'business practices' and unpopular practices like having.....
- no graphic images on tours
- having the equivalent of a black wrapper on the front of your site that has no nudie pics
- warnings that specifically state the sexual material that is inside, labelling with ICRA so that parents could block if they wanted, blocking sidedoors into your site from search engines so no inadvertant clicking by children OR adults
- no spamming or allowing affiliates to spam, unless it was an adult that opt-in for adult-specific emails
- being selective to what affiliates you let into your program
.....that will make a difference.
If these 'business practices" were in place, there would be less ammo that conservatives could have in being able to prove that 'pornographers' were 'irresponsible'.
the answer that will be FORCED on this community will be .XXX
That is the "voluntary" REGULATION that will occur.
It's one thing to fight and knockdown .XXX, but to not offer some middle ground, is only asking for things like COPA v3.0, new 2257, obscenity laws,etc,etc,etc.
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