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Originally Posted by Choker
3. How did you get into the online adult business? What examples/mentors did you look to when you started?
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Basically I started like most others, making and submitting galleries. Zilla I admired quite a bit, until years later when I had a trade with him, in fact for some time I was his top trade. He was using that shit x3 script, his toplist was by uniques in instead of productivity. Anywho thumbzilla would be twice the size he is now if he had been productivity based. Here I was looking at his toplist, nothing but absolute shit trades and he did nothing about it. I had on my site a category "Bondage and Torture" it listed very mild galleries, just bdsm no blood or bruises or any shit like that. At that time galleryspots was really big, Zilla had even started turning down trades that used my galleries. He was stuck in the past and "was tired" of seeing my shit everywhere. Instead of telling me "hey we are over exposing my surfers to your gallerise, is there something we can do?" the smuck emailed me and said something to the effect of "You have torture on your site, I was in Veitnamn and this brings back bad memories" or some shit like that. Fucker was still trading with sites that had animals getting fucked. I did not even bother to reply to him, I just killed the trade. Zilla was nothing but a asshat. Nelvac made that site what it is yet that asshole Zilla got al lthe credit. I think Shap is a bit of a arrogant egomaniac but I give him kudos for changing thumbzilla to productivity based. That was a very smart move.
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Hey Choker what's up? I just had to reply to this one. I'm not going to comment on how zilla was run before I took it over. I respect Nelvac and Zilla and they ran it the way they felt was right. I made changes when we picked it up and the site is doing fantastic. So I can't complain
Now here is where i have to comment.
Shap is a bit of a arrogant egomaniac
I know I'm many things but an arrogant egomaniac is not one of them. I whine and bitch alot and at times i may be an outspoken asshole prick. But I'm not an arrogant egomaniac. At least I don't think so and I've never heard anybody else say that about me.
I know you think I dislike you and I have it out for you. I honestly don't. In fact quite the opposite. The few times I've posted in your threads I tried to give you advice because I have been involved in similar situations as yourself. I'm also outspoken and sometimes I speak/write before I think and get myself into trouble. I tried to offer advice to you in those threads. I don't think you are a bad guy. I like how you run your business. I just see how your posts don't always help you out and can be often misinterpreted by people.
I've asked quite a few times for your contact info because I want to do business with you. Two of the people I respect more than just about anyone in this biz have spoken highly of you. Dameian from Caughtnude and J99 from pinkteenseries who is now part of the Twistys/Zilla CREW!
I've also always respected how you've built up your business and the ideas you try. In fact I've watched you closely because I feel alot of your ideas are very good.
Anyhow that's all i had to say about that. I've wanted to get in touch with you for some time. With him on board it is definitely only a matter of time before we do some good business together.