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Old 06-28-2005, 05:14 PM  
Libertine
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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
i used to argue this in high school pschology class. the subject of suicide came up and since i enjoyed pushing peoples buttons, i offered that i was fine with it and would even encourage it for those who are unhappy or just done with it. i continued by saying that we are all going to die anyway and in a cosmic sense our life is insignificant and on a cosmic timeline... we practically never existed anyway.

everyone was in shock. they started saying how selfish it was because of all the people that care about you etc... but i maintained that there view was in fact rooted in selfish behavior. more than anything, they would be upset at their own personal sense of loss. if they genuinely cared about the wants of the individual and were not selfish, they would respect the decision.
Not only that, the argument that the value of a human life can be derived from other people is logically invalid. After all, if A is valuable because B considers A valuable, that judgement can only have weight because B himself is valuable, and if B is valuable because A considers B valuable, it's circular reasoning. In order for human lives to be valuable, they have to be intrinsically valuable, that is, valuable in themselves.
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