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Originally Posted by European Lee
Okay shitface, lets set the record straight here shall we?
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There is no need to be immature about this and call me names, it only serves to expose your lack of professionalism
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Originally Posted by European Lee
Go back to January, where i had a long conversation with Wade on the convention floor, i even gave him my cell and office phone number, telling him to contact me once he got back where we could discuss the aspects of the design that quite frankly, i thought looked like they were done by an Afghanistani that you had obviously outsourced and needed to be redone.
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This is all news to me. My email history indicates we made a number of versions for you, you picked the one you liked, we made all the changes you requested, and the last thing I heard from you was 'bring the map out of the background a little more and we're done
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I have not heard from Wade since then, i have not heard from you since then, i have no plans on paying you guys for this incomplete, shit design, i am also glad that you never asked for 50% upfront because quite frankly, if you had, it would be ME causing drama about you, instead of the other way around.
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Was it my job to keep emailng and ICQ'ing you after you ignored me for a year? I'm sorry, should I be calling your cell as well?
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The design itself is not, was not and in my opinion, never will be up to your usual standard of work which, is what leads me to beleive you outsourced my job externally.
You are the ones who fucked up by outsourcing the work to some noob that, quite frankly, Juicy could out-perform in Photoshop skills.
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Funny you should say this now, your emails contradict what you're saying, I have all the history infront of me. Never in the past year and a half did you ever suggest to me that the designer is Afghanistani. Actually the designer who built your site is our top designer with over 6 years experience.
He worked through your specifications, making many versions and doing all the changes you specified.
You even said yourself you liked it - so I'm a little confused as to where this is all coming from, I can only assume now that you want to sell the domain, you need an excuse to not like the work that you previously liked, and this is the best excuse you can come up with?
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Your loss ultimately, not mine  |
Correct, when you don't pay for something, the other person loses, I'm glad you recognise the loss you have caused me.
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I have worked with plenty of designers in the industry who, strangely enough, deliver work of the quality in their portfolios that i expect which, strangely enough, also results in them being paid for the work.
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You have never said this to me in the past 1.5 years, you said the work was good, and that you just wanted the "map to come out a bit more & we're done"
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Feel free to post the samples of the http://www.europeanwebmasters.com design that you apparently 'designed' for me, as well as a link to your portfolio so people can compare the two. |
So it's ok for me to post the URL now?
Last time I posted some url's of the work we did, you said you were not going to pay me *because* I posted it.
So make up your mind before you lose any credability you may have left.
Are you not paying for the design because:
1) The url's of your work were posted on the board previously
2) You no longer need the design now that you're selling the domain.
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Originally Posted by European Lee
This way people will quite clearly be able to see the crap that you never delivered and, expect to be paid for thus, will subsequently understand why you wont be seeing a red cent of that $500.
Regards,
Lee
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You previously have said you have every intention of paying the invoice.. so what's it going to be, will you pay, or were you lying previously?