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hagbard · 05-27-2005, 11:56 AM

Now, I know this isn't ALL Brits by any stretch, but holy shit:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm

I remember seeing a story on Discovery or somesuch about how the police in London were campaigning for STAB proof vests. The idea being that many crimes in the UK are backed up with knives.

Does it strike anyone that this might be a LITTLE proof that things like gun control aren't terribly effective at reducing crime? You take away guns, people grab knives and commit enough stabbings to warrant the same "proof" vests as our cops wear against guns. Now they want to take away a certain kind of knife. Does anyone honestly believe that if this goes through, that other bans will not follow?

My problem with a lot of the current liberal thought out there is that instead of taking care of the disease, only the symptoms are treated. These doctors aren't suggesting that marraige counseling should be mandatory, but knives that chould be used in domestic fights should be removed. Instead of making gun safety classes mandatory, lets remove the guns. These people want to make it impossible to commit a crime by removing the tools instead of the desire. The worst thing in this whole sordid mess is that many of these "experts" are the same ones that have degrees in science related areas and have studied how man became the dominant force. We are creative. We adapt. If a gun isn't there, we will grab a knife. If a knife has been removed, we will grab a pipe. If they ban plumbing we'll grab a baseball bat. If they make it so that you must show a permit to own a bat, we'll just tear up a floor board.

This isnt a pro gun or pro knife or pro crime post. Just a rant. If I have spelling errors please forgive.

05-27-2005, 11:56 AM
hagbard Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 309	The Brits are insane Now, I know this isn't ALL Brits by any stretch, but holy shit: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm I remember seeing a story on Discovery or somesuch about how the police in London were campaigning for STAB proof vests. The idea being that many crimes in the UK are backed up with knives. Does it strike anyone that this might be a LITTLE proof that things like gun control aren't terribly effective at reducing crime? You take away guns, people grab knives and commit enough stabbings to warrant the same "proof" vests as our cops wear against guns. Now they want to take away a certain kind of knife. Does anyone honestly believe that if this goes through, that other bans will not follow? My problem with a lot of the current liberal thought out there is that instead of taking care of the disease, only the symptoms are treated. These doctors aren't suggesting that marraige counseling should be mandatory, but knives that chould be used in domestic fights should be removed. Instead of making gun safety classes mandatory, lets remove the guns. These people want to make it impossible to commit a crime by removing the tools instead of the desire. The worst thing in this whole sordid mess is that many of these "experts" are the same ones that have degrees in science related areas and have studied how man became the dominant force. We are creative. We adapt. If a gun isn't there, we will grab a knife. If a knife has been removed, we will grab a pipe. If they ban plumbing we'll grab a baseball bat. If they make it so that you must show a permit to own a bat, we'll just tear up a floor board. This isnt a pro gun or pro knife or pro crime post. Just a rant. If I have spelling errors please forgive.