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Back in Black
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***There is another Darth ... one we've never heard of before in the Star Wars to my knowledge. How could he tie into the film? If they doesn't appear in person, perhaps the character is part of the backstory? And on a related note, did you know the Journal of the Whills is in Episode III?
-DARTH PLAGUEIS- there are scores of legends about this Sith. But was he was powerful enought to cheat death? Certainly he could at least use the power of the Force to lengthen his life.
-****** of the Whills will also be mentioned, and ******** of the Whills will be mentioned, too.
***One of these is not like the other: Saleucami, Cato Neimoidia, Mygeeto.
-All 3 are planets, but one of them is very different.
-Cato Neimoidia is also described as a Neimoidian colony world. Well done!
-We all know that GL likes to use mytholgy and all that good stuff. I noticed that mygeeto sounds very close to Megiddo. If I'm not mistaken, the second word is a word used in the bible that refers to armageddon. Exactly the observation I was looking for!
-The birth planet of the twins is not on that list.
-All 3 are planets. The events on the planets are what is different. Think montage.
-This montage is in the middle of the film.
-On Cato Neimoidia the bad guys win.
-On Mygeeto the bad guys win
-But at Saleucami, the Jedi win
-Polis Massa is "the birth planet."
-Utapau: "it is a sinkhole planet."
-"I believe there's one more planet in the film we've yet to talk about. Of course, the number of planets is always in flux ... so this would be true, from a certain point of view."
-"Yawn ... are we saying that Saleucami is the planet where Aayla will appear in the film? Is this the fungus (mushroom) planet? It would make sense to go underground then, too.
Just ideas, let's no derail this thread any further, this is a good find."
***Yoda hitches a ride on a dragonfly creature called a Can-cell.
-There is also a toy coming out with Yoda riding the Can-Cell, too, I just learned.
***Odd Ball is a clone pilot that defends Obi-Wan's crippled ship after he is hit by flak.
-There is FLAK in the movie. Obi-Wan flys through it and gets hit.
***Order 66 is the directive Palpatine gives to wipe out the Jedi. The Clones turn at this point.
***Delegation of 2000 is the united Senators and politicians against Palpatine. They are concerned about his powers. This is the start of the Rebellion, before the Empire even takes shape.
***Confirmation: Yoda and Sidious duel
-Impressive enough of a sequence that he did not wish to give any additional details.
-We have "no idea" of the power of the Dark Side.
-You have no idea how bad Sidious is going to get. I didn't think George had it in him. HE DOES.
-Shots of the Yoda vs. Sidious fight have been complete, so it seems unlikely the scene will be cut. Yoda again does the karate pose to begin like in Episode III.
-"BTW, Yoda has a line that ends the Palpatine/Sidious debate once and for all. And man, those teeth are disgusting!"
-"As the Red guards move to action as Yoda comes in to confront Palpatine ... he dispatches them with the greatest of ease. With a wave of his hand the two guarding the door are rendered helpless and lay in a heap beside the door.
Yoda grimmaces ... Chancellor Palpatine? Or Darth Sidious, should I say?"
***Description of Anakin-Padme quiet moment:
-"Well, when he wakes up you'll see he's pretty buff with his shirt completely off. It is in the middle of the Coruscant night, and he climbs out of bed for a pensive moment on Padme's patio overlooking the heart of Corusant. Amazing scene, the view is breathtaking. This might be a Luke and the twin suns moment ...?"
***Confirmation of Anakin choking Padme?
-I'd bet he chokes her so hard her feet leave the ground.
-In the original cut, Anakin even threw her against the wall. Deleted scene!
-Did you mean Anakin threw Padme against the wall while choking her? Or that he threw her against the wall after he was done?
"Yeah, after. Man, you guys are watching VERY closely.
***Cin Drallig is played by Nick Gillard and he is a old Jedi lightsaber teacher.
***Suited Vader will not be seen killing off the remaining Jedi.
-Noted that there is still a surprise at the end.
***Dooku gets owned, I can tell you that.
***Mace falls a long way down. Kit Fisto is in this scene as well.
-"Yes, Mace goes through the window."
-Let's just say that Mace is literally blindsided by Anakin's Dark Side. Yoda senses the Clones turning and has to think quickly to escape.
-Doesn't Mace lose a hand with his lightsaber still in it? Hmmm ... I've got to dig up who told me that.
-Yeah, I think Anakin says something about him needed to keep Palpatine alive so he could save Padmé. Then swipes off Mace's hand.
***Nos Monster
***Anakin's murder of the Younglings is not on-screen but implied
-Yeah, not shown on screen. In fact, none of it is, from a certain point of view. Dead bodies everywhere.
***The end of the Clone Wars, the Separatists were hoping a frontal assault (on Coruscant) would catch the Jedi weak and thin.
***In one of the early animatics for the crash landing on Corusant, they had Anakin piloting the crippled ship through a heavily populated area. It even clipped large buildings as it crashed. This scene was changed later in production to have him land on some sort of runway or unused stretch of highway.
The crash is still amazing though, think of that shot of the trailer with the fire ships but the huge craft slamming into the ground. Same angle and everything.
***So are you guys saying that it's been confirmed that the fireship scene from the trailer has been scrapped from the final cut of the movie?
No, that is all still in there. Just where it lands was changed from the original animatic. This is how rumors get started ...
***When asked about Tarkin's role in RotS Josh replied: "He's in it for about a second."
***Ewan finally gets to act in this one. There's more emotion in 10 minutes of ROTS than all of the prequels combined.
***When asked about Boba Fett's role in RotS and the pictures floating around the net Josh stated: "All fake. Lucas doesn't waste time with this stuff this time."
-Is Boba Fett in Episode III at all?
"Nope."
***"I can tell you that Bene is a teenage Jedi apprentice that is killed in the Temple raid."
***"I was told the other day the most or all of the "fuel" scenes were cut from ROTS. For whatever that is worth."
***"BOGA is the name of Obi-Wan's lizard. I've been messing that name up I think. The BARC is the clonetroopers speeder, right?"
***"If I were to guess ...
Grievous watches as Obi-Wan lands. You can barely see that the droid general's helmet is removed. You can't see his face because he is just under the shadow of his ship. Obi-Wan lands on a landing plaform outcropping in a giant sinkhole on Utapau. He looks around ..."
***"And isn't there an EU character supposed to appear in the film?"
-When asked if the EU character is a Jedi or Sith or... JG replied "... EXACTLY."
-"I can't say too much really ... that PM debacle last time got me in a bit of a bind. But yeah, there's plenty left to uncover and discover about the film!"
-"A Jedi that may be leaning to the Dark Side ... maybe this is a clue to the EU character as well."
Some quick Q&A Updates:
Are there any scenes so far which are disappointing or not up to snuff?
"The BARG is a bit odd. "
When you say, "You have no idea how BAD Sidious gets" do you mean that in terms of his actions....and if so, does that come across in the dialogue too?
"BOTH."
Speaking of the dialogue, how is it this time around?
"MUCH BETTER. There's a few dumb lines between Anakin and Padme, but other than that ... YEAH."
Your reaction has been this strong WITHOUT an accompanying score. How much more drama will the music add to these scenes? "
"A+ I hope."
I've seen that now you rank it just below Empire...which is encouring, given you've not seen a final product yet. That being said, if the final product is that much better, might it surpass ESB in your mind? And also, if you think not, why not? What does ESB have right now that is lacking in Sith....(other than nearly 25 years of reverence behind it..LOL)?
"I hope so, but that would be very hard. ESB is an icon."
Will the individual planets be pretty memorable, visually? Star Wars landscapes have always had very distinctive characteristics.
"Yeah, Utapau is memorable ... the landing platform is in the middle of a sinkhole."
Are the performances in Ep. III amped up? In other words, from what you've seen, are we getting good stuff from the actors....(say by comparison to the previous two)?
"Yes 100% improved."
What specific elements might make this PG-13? Anakin's body? The "scare" factor if it's more intense? Name some broad-but-specific reasons....
"EVERYTHING. Especially Sidious"
It is safe to say tarkin is not in this movie?
"Tarkin is in. There is a cool unpublished tidbit about him though... "
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