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MarcWomack · 05-02-2005, 06:17 PM

Man, where to start. First off, Xpays, if you've got such a beef, we can certainly turn this into the thread you're hoping to.... or, we could start a Marc Vs. Xpays thread which is probably a better idea. I'll gladly go toe to toe with you or anyone else in the biz. See, I've got this cool thing working for me: honesty and integrity. So other than spending a great deal of time on this, I've got nothing to loose. You want to make some concrete allegations, go nuts. I'll back EVERYTHING we do up with proof. We're not the shady fucks you seem to think we are. I started CJ over six years ago. I've put my heart and soul into it.

Now, to the accusations. Here's a newsflash: 99% of our spots we won't sell to someone who's looking to send traffic to a program. We only sell to the site owners. You're ALL RIGHT that it's a long shot to buy our traffic to send to sponsor programs and make a profit. That's why we won't sell it to you. Wanna see the ICQ logs of people asking us to do this and me turning them away? I'll dig'em up if you want.

The people that make money with us are the site owners because they make their profits on the retention. As for your example in mathmatical ability, you're actually not that far off. Most of our customers charge in the 29.95 range and average 2.5 months of retention. They don't offer trials b/c we advise them not to. Of course we are picky about who we'll sell ads to. It does have to be a quality site. 2 reasons for this:

1) what good is making a quick sale of the customer is dissapointed with the results? As you can see by the customers of ours who are sticking up for us, we've got happy customers.

2) we give a fuck about our fans. We want them to be happy too. You don't grow to 40,000,000 unique visitors a month on word of mouth by pissing off your fanbase.

05-02-2005, 06:17 PM
MarcWomack Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 529	Man, where to start. First off, Xpays, if you've got such a beef, we can certainly turn this into the thread you're hoping to.... or, we could start a Marc Vs. Xpays thread which is probably a better idea. I'll gladly go toe to toe with you or anyone else in the biz. See, I've got this cool thing working for me: honesty and integrity. So other than spending a great deal of time on this, I've got nothing to loose. You want to make some concrete allegations, go nuts. I'll back EVERYTHING we do up with proof. We're not the shady fucks you seem to think we are. I started CJ over six years ago. I've put my heart and soul into it. Now, to the accusations. Here's a newsflash: 99% of our spots we won't sell to someone who's looking to send traffic to a program. We only sell to the site owners. You're ALL RIGHT that it's a long shot to buy our traffic to send to sponsor programs and make a profit. That's why we won't sell it to you. Wanna see the ICQ logs of people asking us to do this and me turning them away? I'll dig'em up if you want. The people that make money with us are the site owners because they make their profits on the retention. As for your example in mathmatical ability, you're actually not that far off. Most of our customers charge in the 29.95 range and average 2.5 months of retention. They don't offer trials b/c we advise them not to. Of course we are picky about who we'll sell ads to. It does have to be a quality site. 2 reasons for this: 1) what good is making a quick sale of the customer is dissapointed with the results? As you can see by the customers of ours who are sticking up for us, we've got happy customers. 2) we give a fuck about our fans. We want them to be happy too. You don't grow to 40,000,000 unique visitors a month on word of mouth by pissing off your fanbase. __________________ Regards, MarcWomack.com Internet Advertising & Outsourcing Consultant