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Old 04-30-2005, 05:26 PM  
Pleasurepays
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sorry, i misread that. i thought you were talking about losing weight.

all thermogenics are basically the same in my opinion. Red Line will really get you jacked up, but it can make you puke if you are training hard on an empty stomach. No Explode is a must 30mins before training in my opinion (although there are now several similar products)
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