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DomBuyer · 04-30-2005, 09:17 AM

It's lousy where I am, so I'm gonna' help out all you noobs who want to skip the working for a living part and go right to making immediate bank off domains.

I have been very lucky in this business, and every day I make good money for doing very little, I am reminded of how many years I spent in shitty jobs in factories, in sales, waitering, taking shit from people and generally being unhappy.

In the spirit of all that, I thought I would do a little domain lesson for those people here who want to get ahead.

Because I won't be able to edit this, and am writing stream-of-coffee, there will be gaps and mistakes. Forgive me those.

Plus, I am by no means an expert, but probably more of an expert than you so...

Here goes:

You got $500 or $1000 lying around and don't really think that the 3% the bank is giving you is going to pay for those new rims?

Good, you're the hungry fellow I want to talk to...lol

Put your $1k Monopoly money on the table and let's start there:

If *I* put out $1k on a domain, I want to make $3-5k back in a week or two, or 10x that if I hold it longer.

There are few legal enterprises where you put out a grand and get back $3k or $5k in a week or so.

Here's how to turn $1k into $3-5k in a week or less:

Rule one: Go after what's already registered, and has a decent Overture count. New registrations are like trend-spotting. You have to have some information that the public doesn't or a hunch. Both those things are valid and sometimes pay off, but in the end, it's a lottery throw. Let's leave that aside for a moment for the purposes of this.

Go here:

http://inventory.overture.com/d/sear...ry/suggestion/

Type in "boobs"

You'll get this list:

1379817 boob
397393 big boob
95716 huge boob
23107 lanas big boob
21048 nice boob
20335 rate my boob
20001 boob squad
18867 black boob
18026 natural boob
16972 teen boob
15300 sexy boob
15278 small boob
14469 girl boob
13455 boob job
12526 big black boob
11991 boob flash
11823 large boob
11443 naked boob
11240 fake boob
11124 big natural boob
10806 hot boob
10229 giant boob
9610 biggest boob
9566 showing boob
9391 mature boob
9333 bouncing boob
9329 tara reid boob
9118 free boob
8748 spring break boob
8562 asian boob
8553 boob grab
8402 free big boob
8175 beach boob
8058 unreal boob
8016 perfect boob
7975 boob picture
7839 show boob
7716 massive boob
7617 flashing boob
7191 lindsay lohan boob
7155 boob sex
7047 boob shot
6823 boob pic
6768 college boob
6678 her boob
6537 britney spears boob
6469 real boob
6276 boob slip
6169 boob site myspace.com
5727 gigantic boob
5673 big boob movie
5399 big boob teen
5371 monster boob
5102 boob fuck
5030 fat boob
5012 asian big boob
4988 mega boob
4943 amateur boob
4884 best boob
4702 boob cruise
4580 bare boob
4579 boob movie
4525 bigger boob
4451 lesbian boob
4278 celebrity boob
4240 blonde boob
4140 girl with big boob
4111 free big boob pic
4078 tiny boob
4006 busty boob
3987 huge real boob
3986 anime boob
3917 boob gallery
3885 nude boob
3874 boob cum
3868 man boob
3855 little boob
3840 wet boob
3823 boob video
3805 big boob pic
3798 mardi gras boob
3748 bouncy boob
3725 bra boob
3520 hentai boob
3517 huge natural boob
3482 see boob
3428 world biggest boob
3416 new boob
3381 big boob lesbian
3324 indian boob
3300 boob tit
3270 grabbing boob
3265 biggest boob in the world
3260 ebony boob
3140 saggy boob
3108 sucking boob
3088 hanging boob
3077 drunk boob
3035 beautiful boob
2995 lick boob

Now don't bother with the top of the list. People who own the names at the top of that list aren't selling to a nobody. They're selling to their equals, not some poor noob like you. Not only that, but you'll get nothing near the top of the list for less than what your house cost you.

Go to the bottom of the list and work to the top depending on your budget. In this case, a grand.

Now, Overture does not distinguish between singular and plural, so when you type "lick boobs" in, the results will show the search lumped together for both the singular and plurar form of the phrase. Unfortunately, only one is worth anything, and 90% or more of the searches are for the plural "lick boobs".

Let's take "lick boob" and type it into Overture with the .com attached.

We get nothing.

That doesn't mean it doesn't get type-ins, it probably does.

Here, you have a fork in the road in your quest to make your grand grow:

1. Contact the owner of lickboob.com and lickboobs.com and offer them a base amount--say, $300. Tell them you can offer them more if you know the traffic. Wait a day or two for a response. There is a science to cold pitches, and that requires a whole second lesson. Let's leave that aside.

2. Move up the list to a phrase that actually registers with the .com type-in.
In this case, it's ebonyboobs.com, (but as an aside, common sense tells you that saggyboobs.com will for sure get type-ins). Ebonyboobs.com gets 40 returns with the .com. I'm guessing it will get 5-10 type-ins a day.

Okay, now you've got a fork in the road.

The owner of lickboobs.com replies to you and tells you, sold @$300! You have no idea if it's even getting one type-in a day. Have you flushed $300 down the toilet?

Well, go back to Overture and type "lick boobs" into the suggestion tool again without the .com. You get a return of 2995 on the singular "lick boob". But again, Overture lumps together singular and plural, and you're definitely safe assuming that the bulk of those 2995 returns is for the plural. You don't usually lick one boob, you lick both, unless you're 8 months and really, really hungry.

So, you know that that phrase has good play, even if it's not showing up with the .com. This is a ding-ding-ding moment.

These situations are gold and here's why:

Most people who dabble in domains don't trust a name unless it gets returns with the .com attached in Overture. So they move along to something else.

But here's the thing about Overture: It's just a tool, and it's often wrong as far as measuring type-ins.

Sometimes very wrong. Nobody with a brain relies on it 100%. In this business, we have a saying, and it's simple:

The only way to truly know the type-ins of a name is to test it. (lol)

But in this business, like any other, you want to be buying where no one else is, because sellers aren't playing off multiple offers. And these kinds of names don't attract as much interest, because people want sure things. Lonely paths make the most money.

You could make a full time job out of these situations, finding names that have interesting numbers with just the phrase (lick boobs) typed in but not the phrase with the .com.

Now, if you bought lickboobs.com for $300, you'd never lose money, because you could turn to people like me and I would assume that the name is getting at least 5-10 type ins a day without caring what Overture says. Once you've guaranteed your investment, you're riding shotgun and kicking ass.

Now I would know that it gets type-ins from experience. But how would you, who may not know that, want to make sure that this was so?

Go to Google: Type in "lick boobs" in brackets (very important).

The phrase returns about 16000 sites that have that phrase. Go through the sites and look them over. Any of them have sites built around that very phrase? Probably not, but possibly. What's on the site? Start assessing its popularity.

When you typed that phrase into Google, did it return any paid ads on the right? (the bullshit generic ones from ebay and amazon don't count of course). If there are some real ones, go look at the top bidders and look at their sites to try and get some clues.

Figure out what they are paying per click to be in that ad:

Go here:

http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/rc/srch/

Click on "Visit The Advertiser Center"

Click on "View Bids Tool" on the right.

In this case, there is no bidder for "lick boobs" but if the phrase were "big boobs" the price for an advertiser per click would be .10c

That sucks. Let's see what Google is charging for that phrase:

https://adwords.google.com/select/Wi...ewaccount=true

Go through the process and you come up with Google getting only .5c for "lick boobs".

(If you it was large boobs, they're getting 30c per click. Makes sense, right, because that's a much more known phrase)

Okay, so you're basically at the Overture and Google's minimum bid, so that doesn't help you, but again, you're stealth, because no one else would bother to buy this name unless they knew something that no one else does, and that's where all the other sniffing about comes in handy.

So, you know the phrase is definitely popular, you know that Overture is showing very good returns without the .com ($300 worth for sure) and you're pretty certain you won't lose anything.

Now here's the step that guarantees your investment if you're a chicken shit.

You have a list of the top ten guys in the domain game that you can contact *without fear that we will end run you and buy the domain direct*. There is such a list, and I am on that list.

(con't below)

04-30-2005, 09:17 AM
DomBuyer Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Amalfi Coast Posts: 2,595	Dombuyer's Guide to turning a grand into $3-$5k or more It's lousy where I am, so I'm gonna' help out all you noobs who want to skip the working for a living part and go right to making immediate bank off domains. I have been very lucky in this business, and every day I make good money for doing very little, I am reminded of how many years I spent in shitty jobs in factories, in sales, waitering, taking shit from people and generally being unhappy. In the spirit of all that, I thought I would do a little domain lesson for those people here who want to get ahead. Because I won't be able to edit this, and am writing stream-of-coffee, there will be gaps and mistakes. Forgive me those. Plus, I am by no means an expert, but probably more of an expert than you so... Here goes: You got $500 or $1000 lying around and don't really think that the 3% the bank is giving you is going to pay for those new rims? Good, you're the hungry fellow I want to talk to...lol Put your $1k Monopoly money on the table and let's start there: If I put out $1k on a domain, I want to make $3-5k back in a week or two, or 10x that if I hold it longer. There are few legal enterprises where you put out a grand and get back $3k or $5k in a week or so. Here's how to turn $1k into $3-5k in a week or less: Rule one: Go after what's already registered, and has a decent Overture count. New registrations are like trend-spotting. You have to have some information that the public doesn't or a hunch. Both those things are valid and sometimes pay off, but in the end, it's a lottery throw. Let's leave that aside for a moment for the purposes of this. Go here: http://inventory.overture.com/d/sear...ry/suggestion/ Type in "boobs" You'll get this list: 1379817 boob 397393 big boob 95716 huge boob 23107 lanas big boob 21048 nice boob 20335 rate my boob 20001 boob squad 18867 black boob 18026 natural boob 16972 teen boob 15300 sexy boob 15278 small boob 14469 girl boob 13455 boob job 12526 big black boob 11991 boob flash 11823 large boob 11443 naked boob 11240 fake boob 11124 big natural boob 10806 hot boob 10229 giant boob 9610 biggest boob 9566 showing boob 9391 mature boob 9333 bouncing boob 9329 tara reid boob 9118 free boob 8748 spring break boob 8562 asian boob 8553 boob grab 8402 free big boob 8175 beach boob 8058 unreal boob 8016 perfect boob 7975 boob picture 7839 show boob 7716 massive boob 7617 flashing boob 7191 lindsay lohan boob 7155 boob sex 7047 boob shot 6823 boob pic 6768 college boob 6678 her boob 6537 britney spears boob 6469 real boob 6276 boob slip 6169 boob site myspace.com 5727 gigantic boob 5673 big boob movie 5399 big boob teen 5371 monster boob 5102 boob fuck 5030 fat boob 5012 asian big boob 4988 mega boob 4943 amateur boob 4884 best boob 4702 boob cruise 4580 bare boob 4579 boob movie 4525 bigger boob 4451 lesbian boob 4278 celebrity boob 4240 blonde boob 4140 girl with big boob 4111 free big boob pic 4078 tiny boob 4006 busty boob 3987 huge real boob 3986 anime boob 3917 boob gallery 3885 nude boob 3874 boob cum 3868 man boob 3855 little boob 3840 wet boob 3823 boob video 3805 big boob pic 3798 mardi gras boob 3748 bouncy boob 3725 bra boob 3520 hentai boob 3517 huge natural boob 3482 see boob 3428 world biggest boob 3416 new boob 3381 big boob lesbian 3324 indian boob 3300 boob tit 3270 grabbing boob 3265 biggest boob in the world 3260 ebony boob 3140 saggy boob 3108 sucking boob 3088 hanging boob 3077 drunk boob 3035 beautiful boob 2995 lick boob Now don't bother with the top of the list. People who own the names at the top of that list aren't selling to a nobody. They're selling to their equals, not some poor noob like you. Not only that, but you'll get nothing near the top of the list for less than what your house cost you. Go to the bottom of the list and work to the top depending on your budget. In this case, a grand. Now, Overture does not distinguish between singular and plural, so when you type "lick boobs" in, the results will show the search lumped together for both the singular and plurar form of the phrase. Unfortunately, only one is worth anything, and 90% or more of the searches are for the plural "lick boobs". Let's take "lick boob" and type it into Overture with the .com attached. We get nothing. That doesn't mean it doesn't get type-ins, it probably does. Here, you have a fork in the road in your quest to make your grand grow: 1. Contact the owner of lickboob.com and lickboobs.com and offer them a base amount--say, $300. Tell them you can offer them more if you know the traffic. Wait a day or two for a response. There is a science to cold pitches, and that requires a whole second lesson. Let's leave that aside. 2. Move up the list to a phrase that actually registers with the .com type-in. In this case, it's ebonyboobs.com, (but as an aside, common sense tells you that saggyboobs.com will for sure get type-ins). Ebonyboobs.com gets 40 returns with the .com. I'm guessing it will get 5-10 type-ins a day. Okay, now you've got a fork in the road. The owner of lickboobs.com replies to you and tells you, sold @$300! You have no idea if it's even getting one type-in a day. Have you flushed $300 down the toilet? Well, go back to Overture and type "lick boobs" into the suggestion tool again without the .com. You get a return of 2995 on the singular "lick boob". But again, Overture lumps together singular and plural, and you're definitely safe assuming that the bulk of those 2995 returns is for the plural. You don't usually lick one boob, you lick both, unless you're 8 months and really, really hungry. So, you know that that phrase has good play, even if it's not showing up with the .com. This is a ding-ding-ding moment. These situations are gold and here's why: Most people who dabble in domains don't trust a name unless it gets returns with the .com attached in Overture. So they move along to something else. But here's the thing about Overture: It's just a tool, and it's often wrong as far as measuring type-ins. Sometimes very wrong. Nobody with a brain relies on it 100%. In this business, we have a saying, and it's simple: The only way to truly know the type-ins of a name is to test it. (lol) But in this business, like any other, you want to be buying where no one else is, because sellers aren't playing off multiple offers. And these kinds of names don't attract as much interest, because people want sure things. Lonely paths make the most money. You could make a full time job out of these situations, finding names that have interesting numbers with just the phrase (lick boobs) typed in but not the phrase with the .com. Now, if you bought lickboobs.com for $300, you'd never lose money, because you could turn to people like me and I would assume that the name is getting at least 5-10 type ins a day without caring what Overture says. Once you've guaranteed your investment, you're riding shotgun and kicking ass. Now I would know that it gets type-ins from experience. But how would you, who may not know that, want to make sure that this was so? Go to Google: Type in "lick boobs" in brackets (very important). The phrase returns about 16000 sites that have that phrase. Go through the sites and look them over. Any of them have sites built around that very phrase? Probably not, but possibly. What's on the site? Start assessing its popularity. When you typed that phrase into Google, did it return any paid ads on the right? (the bullshit generic ones from ebay and amazon don't count of course). If there are some real ones, go look at the top bidders and look at their sites to try and get some clues. Figure out what they are paying per click to be in that ad: Go here: http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/rc/srch/ Click on "Visit The Advertiser Center" Click on "View Bids Tool" on the right. In this case, there is no bidder for "lick boobs" but if the phrase were "big boobs" the price for an advertiser per click would be .10c That sucks. Let's see what Google is charging for that phrase: https://adwords.google.com/select/Wi...ewaccount=true Go through the process and you come up with Google getting only .5c for "lick boobs". (If you it was large boobs, they're getting 30c per click. Makes sense, right, because that's a much more known phrase) Okay, so you're basically at the Overture and Google's minimum bid, so that doesn't help you, but again, you're stealth, because no one else would bother to buy this name unless they knew something that no one else does, and that's where all the other sniffing about comes in handy. So, you know the phrase is definitely popular, you know that Overture is showing very good returns without the .com ($300 worth for sure) and you're pretty certain you won't lose anything. Now here's the step that guarantees your investment if you're a chicken shit. You have a list of the top ten guys in the domain game that you can contact without fear that we will end run you and buy the domain direct. There is such a list, and I am on that list. (con't below)