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yeah yeah, as soon as BJJ guys beat everybody using every style Judo guys start claiming every BJJ technique as their own. Every technique known to man has been part of some obscure art or other, and they can make all the claims they want, but you know and I know that Helio and Carlson put it all together.
Karate guys can't claim to be soccer masters because they had kicks first, and Judo guys can't legitimately claim BJJ master status.
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